2020 P1 Registration Exercise for 2021 In-take

[phtthp]

zac's mum:

Viiv:

I think filling up 80% of a sec school's cohort with students fr affiliated primary school is a lot, I wonder if most sec schools fill up that proportion?


Some of the better performing students may also choose to go to other higher-ranked sec schools instead of going to affiliated sec school.

Hi, the answer is here: http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/affiliated-schools-reserve-20-places-non-affiliated-students-2019-moe

\"in recent years, some 19 to 21 of the affiliated schools already admit more than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students each year.

Only six to eight schools take in less than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students every year.\"

ACS will definitely be affected.

Kudos to MOE for forcing the schools to open up more to outsiders.

But that means I gotta coach my boy for his PSLE, cannot slack and just leech on the (previously) unconditional entry to the affiliated secondary school.

Correct.

From PSLE 2019 batch, onwards -
those Secondary schools that take back their own P6 Affliated students, for GCE \"O\" level Express stream, at low T-score of 200 or 205 : will be impacted.

Schools like (ACS Junior, CHIJ Toa Payoh, Paya Lebar Methodist girls
, etc) primary.

Wondering aloud
if schools like MGS primary whose Affliation T-score is 220 : also impacted ?

Question is :-
Will those who scored T-score 220 exactly on the dot / boundary :
fall within 80% of entire MGS Secondary 1 cohort ?

If fall within 80% :
means they clear the hurdle, safe.

Otherwise, cannot go back to MGS \"O\" level. Got to give way to other outsiders ( non-Affliated).
Cannot \"Chope\" seat anymore, through affiliation.


But from 2021 onwards, after T-score obsolete : need to discover what's the lowest AL score combination required, in order to fall into 80% category ?

[zac's mum]

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed. Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230. They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats. ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough. We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.


This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools. It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities. It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

[galaxyraider]

zac's mum:

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed. Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230. They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats. ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough. We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.


This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools. It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities. It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

Some kids are really late bloomer and I don't think it's fair for them to lose their seat to outsiders just because MOE wants to play a nice guy role. Other schools might not be suitable for them as the school culture and values might be very different. I personally oppose this decision, but there's nothing I can do to prevent it.

[p0o9i8]

The distance in Onemap is calculated as the crow flies.


As with all CHIJ, this one has affiliation with a secondary school. However, you may have to look elsewhere or have a backup plan as there's a possibility that it will ballot in Phase 2C for < 1km. CHIJ TP has http://www.asiaone.com/news/edvantage/clans-schools-end-parent-volunteer-scheme so you won't be able to qualify for Phase 2B unless you start going to church.[/quote]

Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)

1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

[floppy]

p0o9i8:

Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)


1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

1. Correct
2. Some schools require you to apply in person or via their application, not write in. You may want to contact the school to find out more. For Marymount, you can get in via Phase 2C without having to perform PV.
3. If the chances are good (which means a chance to ballot < 2km), you will have to withdraw first, before applying in CHIJ TP. If you don't get in to CHIJ TP, i.e. did not succeed in the ballot, you will also lose your place in RGPS and you will have to look for a backup in Phase 2Cs.

[phtthp]

zac's mum:

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed.


Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230.

They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats.

ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough.

We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.

This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools.

It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities.

It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

IMO, for highly Popular Secondary schools that have affiliation to GCE O level, think perhaps those whose T-score is 235 & above : are safe, to fall within 80% of Sec 1 cohort

But if the Secondary Affliated school isnt that popular, then perhaps with a lower T-score, can still fall within 80%

[Lexy]

floppy:

p0o9i8:

Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)


1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

1. Correct
2. Some schools require you to apply in person or via their application, not write in. You may want to contact the school to find out more. For Marymount, you can get in via Phase 2C without having to perform PV.
3. If the chances are good (which means a chance to ballot < 2km), you will have to withdraw first, before applying in CHIJ TP. If you don't get in to CHIJ TP, i.e. did not succeed in the ballot, you will also lose your place in RGPS and you will have to look for a backup in Phase 2Cs.

Hope i am making sense as there are pieces of information you posted here and there.

For your current place, do consider St Margaret as its considerably nearer for logistics. - some years may need balloting, some years don't need at 2C

For CHIJ TPY and PCP within 1-2km - i would think it not worth withdrawing from RGPS to ballot at 2C. (please check if you are within 1km of any of the schools)
For Marymount, you should not need balloting, so its about choosing between RGPS and Marymount

[zac's mum]

phtthp:

IMO, for highly Popular Secondary schools that have affiliation to GCE O level, think perhaps those whose T-score is 235 & above : are safe, to fall within 80% of Sec 1 cohort


But if the Secondary Affliated school isnt that popular, then perhaps with a lower T-score, can still fall within 80%

Yes. It all depends on the past stats which the secondary schools will have. They know how many students each yearly intake. And they know what T scores those students had. Work backwards from there and they will know 80% quota what's the COP. Parents of the 2019 PSLE batch, which is the first batch affected, do not have access to the new anticipated COP. So they gotta pressure the schools to release the info. Otherwise how to make informed choice?

[phtthp]

Correct


Students born in 2007 (piggy) : are the pioneering batch sitting for PSLE 2019, affected by this new MOE implementation movement, "80% reserved for Sec 1 entry, through Affliation".

This batch of students are currently in 2017 P4, now. Parents of these students must hold internal meeting with their school Principal, find out what is a safe T-score, to fall within 80%.

The affiliation 80% Cut-off-point, varies from school to school : depending on how popular, the Secondary Affliated school is. Depend on the demand of primary school P6 students, who desire to go back to their Affliated Secondary school, to study "O" level.

If demand is poor, then this 80% cut-off-point hold little impact, to that Secondary school.

[p0o9i8]

Lexy:

floppy:

[quote=\"p0o9i8\"]Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)


1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

1. Correct
2. Some schools require you to apply in person or via their application, not write in. You may want to contact the school to find out more. For Marymount, you can get in via Phase 2C without having to perform PV.
3. If the chances are good (which means a chance to ballot < 2km), you will have to withdraw first, before applying in CHIJ TP. If you don't get in to CHIJ TP, i.e. did not succeed in the ballot, you will also lose your place in RGPS and you will have to look for a backup in Phase 2Cs.

Hope i am making sense as there are pieces of information you posted here and there.

For your current place, do consider St Margaret as its considerably nearer for logistics. - some years may need balloting, some years don't need at 2C

For CHIJ TPY and PCP within 1-2km - i would think it not worth withdrawing from RGPS to ballot at 2C. (please check if you are within 1km of any of the schools)
For Marymount, you should not need balloting, so its about choosing between RGPS and Marymount[/quote]
Thanks, I did not think of St Margaret, which is also quite near me and has affiliation, but on one map its over 2km from my hse. But Vacancy for Phase 2C is 105, take up 81. I am unsure if over 2km I will have any chance. my postal code is 329023