2020 P1 Registration Exercise for 2021 In-take

[aloyboy]

p0o9i8:

Hi

I am keen to consider CHIJ Toa Payoh, its near lor 1 Philips. I realised from Onemap's school query, its showing as 2km away, although its technically like 3km away. This CHIJ has a secondary school affiliation?

MOE will not care the exact 1.2km, 900m or 3km. It will be just are you within the blue circle, red circle or outside the circle.

Yes CHIJ TPY is affiliated to the Secondary and further affiliate to CJC. The current PSLE affiliation point benefits is like 20+ points, if I not wrong. However, the PSLE system will be totally different where there will be no more T-score, not sure how affiliation will work under the new system. Anyone knows ??

[floppy]

aloyboy:

p0o9i8:

Hi

I am keen to consider CHIJ Toa Payoh, its near lor 1 Philips. I realised from Onemap's school query, its showing as 2km away, although its technically like 3km away. This CHIJ has a secondary school affiliation?

MOE will not care the exact 1.2km, 900m or 3km. It will be just are you within the blue circle, red circle or outside the circle.

Yes CHIJ TPY is affiliated to the Secondary and further affiliate to CJC. The current PSLE affiliation point benefits is like 20+ points, if I not wrong. However, the PSLE system will be totally different where there will be no more T-score, not sure how affiliation will work under the new system. Anyone knows ??

Under the new PSLE scoring and affiliation scheme, the benefit won't be that great IMHO.

The school will set a criteria as per current arrangement but there will be a cut off at 80% of the sec 1 cohort. Which means even if 100% of the primary school students meet the criteria, once the sec school has filled 80% of the sec 1 cohort with the affiliated primary school students, the remaining students will have to look for another school elsewhere.

[Viiv]

I think filling up 80% of a sec school’s cohort with students fr affiliated primary school is a lot, I wonder if most sec schools fill up that proportion? Some of the better performing students may also choose to go to other higher-ranked sec schools instead of going to affiliated sec school.

[zac's mum]

Viiv:

I think filling up 80% of a sec school's cohort with students fr affiliated primary school is a lot, I wonder if most sec schools fill up that proportion? Some of the better performing students may also choose to go to other higher-ranked sec schools instead of going to affiliated sec school.

Hi, the answer is here: http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/affiliated-schools-reserve-20-places-non-affiliated-students-2019-moe
\"in recent years, some 19 to 21 of the affiliated schools already admit more than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students each year. Only six to eight schools take in less than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students every year.\"
ACS will definitely be affected. Kudos to MOE for forcing the schools to open up more to outsiders. But that means I gotta coach my boy for his PSLE, cannot slack and just leech on the (previously) unconditional entry to the affiliated secondary school.

[phtthp]

zac's mum:

Viiv:

I think filling up 80% of a sec school's cohort with students fr affiliated primary school is a lot, I wonder if most sec schools fill up that proportion?


Some of the better performing students may also choose to go to other higher-ranked sec schools instead of going to affiliated sec school.

Hi, the answer is here: http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/affiliated-schools-reserve-20-places-non-affiliated-students-2019-moe

\"in recent years, some 19 to 21 of the affiliated schools already admit more than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students each year.

Only six to eight schools take in less than 20 per cent of non-affiliated students every year.\"

ACS will definitely be affected.

Kudos to MOE for forcing the schools to open up more to outsiders.

But that means I gotta coach my boy for his PSLE, cannot slack and just leech on the (previously) unconditional entry to the affiliated secondary school.

Correct.

From PSLE 2019 batch, onwards -
those Secondary schools that take back their own P6 Affliated students, for GCE \"O\" level Express stream, at low T-score of 200 or 205 : will be impacted.

Schools like (ACS Junior, CHIJ Toa Payoh, Paya Lebar Methodist girls
, etc) primary.

Wondering aloud
if schools like MGS primary whose Affliation T-score is 220 : also impacted ?

Question is :-
Will those who scored T-score 220 exactly on the dot / boundary :
fall within 80% of entire MGS Secondary 1 cohort ?

If fall within 80% :
means they clear the hurdle, safe.

Otherwise, cannot go back to MGS \"O\" level. Got to give way to other outsiders ( non-Affliated).
Cannot \"Chope\" seat anymore, through affiliation.


But from 2021 onwards, after T-score obsolete : need to discover what's the lowest AL score combination required, in order to fall into 80% category ?

[zac's mum]

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed. Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230. They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats. ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough. We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.


This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools. It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities. It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

[galaxyraider]

zac's mum:

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed. Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230. They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats. ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough. We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.


This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools. It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities. It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

Some kids are really late bloomer and I don't think it's fair for them to lose their seat to outsiders just because MOE wants to play a nice guy role. Other schools might not be suitable for them as the school culture and values might be very different. I personally oppose this decision, but there's nothing I can do to prevent it.

[p0o9i8]

The distance in Onemap is calculated as the crow flies.


As with all CHIJ, this one has affiliation with a secondary school. However, you may have to look elsewhere or have a backup plan as there's a possibility that it will ballot in Phase 2C for < 1km. CHIJ TP has http://www.asiaone.com/news/edvantage/clans-schools-end-parent-volunteer-scheme so you won't be able to qualify for Phase 2B unless you start going to church.[/quote]

Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)

1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

[floppy]

p0o9i8:

Thanks for this helpful comment. I am in the 2km range from CHIJ TP. After discussing with my partner, we should. (pls correct me if wrong)


1. register 2A for my child for RGPS when we are in 2019
2. start to prepare and write in PV for schools near my hse. Pei Chun, Marymount, CHIJ.
3. If CHIJ does not accept PV, we should still do step 1 above and turn up at CHIJ to monitor our chances for 2C. If we can get in via 2C to CHIJ, we drop 2A RGPS. Can we do this?

1. Correct
2. Some schools require you to apply in person or via their application, not write in. You may want to contact the school to find out more. For Marymount, you can get in via Phase 2C without having to perform PV.
3. If the chances are good (which means a chance to ballot < 2km), you will have to withdraw first, before applying in CHIJ TP. If you don't get in to CHIJ TP, i.e. did not succeed in the ballot, you will also lose your place in RGPS and you will have to look for a backup in Phase 2Cs.

[phtthp]

zac's mum:

My guess is the huge gap in T score cut off point between affiliated and non-affiliated students will have to be narrowed.


Eg if the affiliated COP is now 200, and non-affiliated COP is 240, then the school will have to raise the affiliated COP to 220 or 230.

They will have to work out the numbers based on their past years stats.

ACS has already issued a letter to inform that some boys will not be able to enter ACS (Barker) Express stream if their PSLE results are not good enough.

We will see what impact after the 2019 PSLE results. MOE gave a 2-year heads up.

This is good for bringing up the academic standards of the secondary schools.

It is more meritocratic. But I pity those kids who are slower learners, or late bloomers, or with mild learning disabilities.

It is hard for them to score at PSLE.

IMO, for highly Popular Secondary schools that have affiliation to GCE O level, think perhaps those whose T-score is 235 & above : are safe, to fall within 80% of Sec 1 cohort

But if the Secondary Affliated school isnt that popular, then perhaps with a lower T-score, can still fall within 80%