Affiliated Schools and their COPs

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If you could add another column - COP variance between affiliate and non-affiliate.

[zac's mum]

Here you go:

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[zac's mum]

By 2019, MOE’s new edict says that the schools must reserve at least 20% of their seats for non-affiliates.


If you notice, ACS Barker has already started to accept non-affiliates. Some other schools - Fairfield N(A) stream & St Pat’s Express stream - still welcomed back ALL their affiliated students & left no places for outsiders.

This is expected to change by 2019.

[Orb]

zac's mum:

By 2019, MOE’s new edict says that the schools must reserve at least 20% of their seats for non-affiliates.


If you notice, ACS Barker has already started to accept non-affiliates. Some other schools - Fairfield N(A) stream & St Pat’s Express stream - still welcomed back ALL their affiliated students & left no places for outsiders.

This is expected to change by 2019.

I’ll like to offer a different view. Taking ACS Barker & St Patrick’s as an example. With a T-score of 241, a non-affiliate would unlikely opt for St Pat’s with the many options available to the pupil.

At this point, assuming that no non-affiliate opts for St Pat’s or less than 20% opt for St Pat’s, then can the school accept more of her affiliate pupils from her feeder schools? This is not covered by MOE.

[zac's mum]

Orb:

zac's mum:

By 2019, MOE’s new edict says that the schools must reserve at least 20% of their seats for non-affiliates.


If you notice, ACS Barker has already started to accept non-affiliates. Some other schools - Fairfield N(A) stream & St Pat’s Express stream - still welcomed back ALL their affiliated students & left no places for outsiders.

This is expected to change by 2019.

I’ll like to offer a different view. Taking ACS Barker & St Patrick’s as an example. With a T-score of 241, a non-affiliate would unlikely opt for St Pat’s with the many options available to the pupil.

At this point, assuming that no non-affiliate opts for St Pat’s or less than 20% opt for St Pat’s, then can the school accept more of her affiliate pupils from her feeder schools? This is not covered by MOE.

I believe MOE’s rule is they must reserve at least 20% for outsiders. To me, that translates to leaving those seats unfilled if there’s insufficient demand.

But I think there will still be students putting St Pat’s as maybe their 2nd choice. There are not many choices (especially if they prefer Catholic boys schools) in the East area? And for example, a non-Chinese student cannot opt for Anglican High which is a SAP school.

[Zeit]

Serious? Leave the seats unfilled and waste them if there are no takers from both internal and external?


That’s a terrible MOE policy! Then you’ll have to close down St Pat’s very soon as their teacher : student ratio moves below the national average as it struggles to cope with under-enrolment!

A complete wastage of infrastructure, human resources and tax payers’ monies.

Then Archbishop / Reverend will ask the ministry…Why don’t you let my junior brothers take up the unfilled vacancies if outsiders don’t covet my secondary school? We’re govt-aided in case you’ve forgotten!

[phtthp]

Orb:

zac's mum:

By 2019, MOE’s new edict says that the schools must reserve at least 20% of their seats for non-affiliates.


If you notice, ACS Barker has already started to accept non-affiliates. Some other schools - Fairfield N(A) stream & St Pat’s Express stream - still welcomed back ALL their affiliated students & left no places for outsiders.

This is expected to change by 2019.

I’ll like to offer a different view. Taking ACS Barker & St Patrick’s as an example. With a T-score of 241, a non-affiliate would unlikely opt for St Pat’s with the many options available to the pupil.

At this point, assuming that no non-affiliate opts for St Pat’s or less than 20% opt for St Pat’s, then can the school accept more of her affiliate pupils from her feeder schools? This is not covered by MOE.

hi Orb,

you have asked a very good question, concerning what if after Psle, after end of S1 posting, there are still remaining (balance) vacant seats still not taken up by outsiders (Non-affliates) ?

For St Patrick, besides entry in Sec 1 (right after Psle) : is there a second round of intake at Sec 3, eg : via DSA in Sec 3 ?

If yes, then cannot touch those empty, vacant seats, that are reserved for Non-affliated students.

But, if don't have, school should let go those seats to whoever (student) is interested to seek Transfer into St Patrick, for O-level

[zac's mum]

Zeit:

Serious? Leave the seats unfilled and waste them if there are no takers from both internal and external?


That's a terrible MOE policy! Then you'll have to close down St Pat's very soon as their teacher : student ratio moves below the national average as it struggles to cope with under-enrolment!

A complete wastage of infrastructure, human resources and tax payers' monies.

Then Archbishop / Reverend will ask the ministry...Why don't you let my junior brothers take up the unfilled vacancies if outsiders don't covet my secondary school? We're govt-aided in case you've forgotten!

Well it may not be as dire as you think.

(A lower teacher:student ratio would actually be better for the kids’ learning, and could boost the school’s O level results in the longer-term, but that’s a side issue.)

What I can suggest as a possible strategy is, a “cross-pollination” of sorts among the various Catholic schools.

So for eg a boy from SJI Junior who does not meet SJI Secondary’s affiliate COP, can apply to St Pat’s as 1st choice, and St Anthony’s Canossian Secondary as his 2nd choice, St Gabriel’s Secondary as his 3rd choice...

And likewise for the CHIJ schools. A girl from eg CHIJ TPY Primary who does not meet the affiliated COP for CHIJ TPY Secondary, can apply to CHIJ St Joseph’s Convent as her 1st choice, CHIJ St Theresa’s Convent as her 2nd choice, CHIJ Katong Convent as her 3rd choice...

Still got some “familiar” safety net right?

[phtthp]

zac's mum:

Zeit:

Serious? Leave the seats unfilled and waste them if there are no takers from both internal and external?


That's a terrible MOE policy! Then you'll have to close down St Pat's very soon as their teacher : student ratio moves below the national average as it struggles to cope with under-enrolment!

A complete wastage of infrastructure, human resources and tax payers' monies.

Then Archbishop / Reverend will ask the ministry...Why don't you let my junior brothers take up the unfilled vacancies if outsiders don't covet my secondary school? We're govt-aided in case you've forgotten!

Well it may not be as dire as you think.

(A lower teacher:student ratio would actually be better for the kids’ learning, and could boost the school’s O level results in the longer-term, but that’s a side issue.)

What I can suggest as a possible strategy is, a “cross-pollination” of sorts among the various Catholic schools.

So for eg a boy from SJI Junior who does not meet SJI Secondary’s affiliate COP, can apply to St Pat’s as 1st choice, and St Anthony’s Canossian Secondary as his 2nd choice, St Gabriel’s Secondary as his 3rd choice...

And likewise for the CHIJ schools. A girl from eg CHIJ TPY Primary who does not meet the affiliated COP for CHIJ TPY Secondary, can apply to CHIJ St Joseph’s Convent as her 1st choice, CHIJ St Theresa’s Convent as her 2nd choice, CHIJ Katong Convent as her 3rd choice...

Still got some “familiar” safety net right?

St Anthony Cannosian Secondary is an All-Girls school, boys cannot go there.