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    Nanyang Girls' High School [*IP]

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    • S Offline
      Sportscar88
      last edited by

      Cbk:
      looks like if you are not so eng to contribute thousands of posts in ksp, you are not real. but you will be accused of being a person who is too eng to create multiple fictitious accounts to stir things up. :rotflmao:
      Don’t quite understand.
      How to tell if one is a real or fake parent giving their opinion? Think CBk is RGS parent. Not fake de.

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        peasants
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        I not NYGH parent, not new account, can post here mah?

        It started off as an information alert. Everyone has the right to post their views regardless how they interprete the alert. Now trace IP also come out ah. Incredible!

        I just feel that P could have manage better. Maybe still new. Anyway after CNY, brand new start for all.

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        • sembgalS Offline
          sembgal
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          https://www.youngparents.com.sg/education/nanyang-girls-high-school-teacher-students-bra-straps/


          Absolutely appalled by the news that I read from Young Parents, I logged in to KSP to view the comments posted here.

          Firstly, I think school educators from MOE have no rights to inspect the girls’ undergarments! I am shocked beyond words.

          NYGH is a highly reputable school and I could not believe what I read. If this was a first time genuine mistake made by the level head, I felt she should be forgiven and be counselled for her actions which may seem a bit repulsive. Unbuttoning the collar buttons or pulling bra straps is a big NO-NO! Dignified educators of NYGH have to treat girls with dignity and not bring embarrassment to them or shame the girls publicly for picking the wrong choice of bra colour.

          Let this be the last negative news of NYGH for 2019.

          I applaud the principal’s decision to apologise. You do not need to but you did! This speaks volume about you.

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            phtthp
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            Stomp report


            https://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/nanyang-girls-high-apologises-after-teacher-pulls-on-students-bra-straps-during

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              Cbk
              last edited by

              There are many parents who are not so eng to post, and many more who find the discussions in ksp too 无聊 and don’t bother to post. They just sit there, read and laugh as some jokers posted. But now that they feel the bra check is a big issue that concerns them, so they voice out and post. That does not make them fake.


              Maybe the word ‘traumatised’ used by one of the parent is a bit exaggerated. But we can’t deny that some girls maybe affected more than others in this case, even though they are not being inspected. Maybe the Sec1 girl is timid and her friends scare her and tease her that she maybe next? We are not the girl, we do not know how she feel and why she feels that way. Just like the Sec 4 girls, many were checked, but why only one cry? Maybe she is more shy and sensitive to touch and to people looking at her bra, while others are not. I know this case is overblown and I know many parents with girls in nygh that said their girls won’t mind, as the button is on the shoulder. But don’t forget that there are girls from more conservative family who mind.

              Yes, I also agree that the girl maybe timid and introverted hence dare not say no to the teacher. What I was sharing here is my personal view, personal parenting style. Even if one breaks the rules, they should receive appropriate punishment. They can be booked. They can be made to stand under the hot sun in the parade square. They can be made to wash toilet or stay back. As long as it adheres to school rules, as long as it is appropriate, go ahead and punish them. I am all for schools to punish the students if they break the law. But if the check and punishments have crossed the line and made them feel uncomfortable, unsafe, they should say no. If my girls are introverted, I will keep repeating and reminding them they have to stand up for themselves and say no if they have to. Learning how to say no is even more important for timid and introverted girls than extroverted girls. Again, this is my personal parenting styles, you don’t have to agree with me. Similarly, some parents here seem to think that the school can do anything they want to their dd when they break the rules, so as they learnt a lesson. Again, this is your parenting style. There is no right or wrong and it is not for me or anyone to condemn you.

              Clearly, the teacher has crossed the line, that is why she and the school apologised. I also understand it is not easy to be teachers these days and she does sound like a nice and caring teacher from the comments and reviews. I do feel for her, especially reading all the very nasty comments people said about her in all the fb comments. All fingers seem to point at her. I do hope the nanyang community, especially the parents and students can show her the support in this difficult time.

              Kudos to the nygh girl who tirelessly fending off the school and teacher by patiently and maturely answering every comments and attacks made. At least she didn’t ask fb to check every IP addresses or block the site! 😂

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                Sportscar88
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                peasants:
                Now trace IP also come out ah. Incredible!

                Cbk:
                At least she didn’t ask fb to check every IP addresses or block the site! 😂
                :yikes: Really mah? Will check/trace IP? I hope this is not true. Actually this is not correct to do so.

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                  sembgal
                  last edited by

                  Cbk:
                  There are many parents who are not so eng to post, and many more who find the discussions in ksp too 无聊 and don’t bother to post. They just sit there, read and laugh as some jokers posted. But now that they feel the bra check is a big issue that concerns them, so they voice out and post. That does not make them fake.


                  Maybe the word ‘traumatised’ used by one of the parent is a bit exaggerated. But we can’t deny that some girls maybe affected more than others in this case, even though they are not being inspected. Maybe the Sec1 girl is timid and her friends scare her and tease her that she maybe next? We are not the girl, we do not know how she feel and why she feels that way. Just like the Sec 4 girls, many were checked, but why only one cry? Maybe she is more shy and sensitive to touch and to people looking at her bra, while others are not. I know this case is overblown and I know many parents with girls in nygh that said their girls won’t mind, as the button is on the shoulder. But don’t forget that there are girls from more conservative family who mind.

                  Yes, I also agree that the girl maybe timid and introverted hence dare not say no to the teacher. What I was sharing here is my personal view, personal parenting style. Even if one breaks the rules, they should receive appropriate punishment. They can be booked. They can be made to stand under the hot sun in the parade square. They can be made to wash toilet or stay back. As long as it adheres to school rules, as long as it is appropriate, go ahead and punish them. I am all for schools to punish the students if they break the law. But if the check and punishments have crossed the line and made them feel uncomfortable, unsafe, they should say no. If my girls are introverted, I will keep repeating and reminding them they have to stand up for themselves and say no if they have to. Learning how to say no is even more important for timid and introverted girls than extroverted girls. Again, this is my personal parenting styles, you don’t have to agree with me. Similarly, some parents here seem to think that the school can do anything they want to their dd when they break the rules, so as they learnt a lesson. Again, this is your parenting style. There is no right or wrong and it is not for me or anyone to condemn you.

                  Clearly, the teacher has crossed the line, that is why she and the school apologised. I also understand it is not easy to be teachers these days and she does sound like a nice and caring teacher from the comments and reviews. I do feel for her, especially reading all the very nasty comments people said about her in all the fb comments. All fingers seem to point at her. I do hope the nanyang community, especially the parents and students can show her the support in this difficult time.

                  Kudos to the nygh girl who tirelessly fending off the school and teacher by patiently and maturely answering every comments and attacks made. At least she didn’t ask fb to check every IP addresses or block the site! 😂

                  From the legal point of view, I understand that the school principal or Teacher can be sued by the parents of the affected girls (if they choose to pursue the matter) as the school has crossed the line. Rightfully, the person who approved of such bra-checking thing ought to leave this industry. Disgrace to the education industry.....

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                  • B Offline
                    Bochapmum3
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                    Will this incident affect you, as a parent, to sway against choosing this school?

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                    • sembgalS Offline
                      sembgal
                      last edited by

                      Bochapmum3:
                      Will this incident affect you, as a parent, to sway against choosing this school?

                      The Principal of Nanyang Girls' High School has served the school since December 2017. She was previously at Singapore
                      Ministry of Education HQ working as (MOE)
                      Cluster Superintendent with Ministry of Education, Singapore (MOE). As a Cluster Superintendent, she must be highly experienced to lead other principals.

                      Before heading to MOE HQ, she was at Yishun Town Secondary School, appointed as Principal at Yishun Town Secondary School from December 2010 to December 2014.

                      Prior to that, she was at Chung Cheng High School (Main), promoted as a Vice Principal in Chung Cheng High School (Main) from December 2008 to September 2010. She started out at Chung Cheng High School (Main) as the Head of Department (Aesthetics) for Chung Cheng High School (Main) from 2003 to 2008.

                      This incident has indeed swayed me against choosing NYGH but considering the background of the highly-educated principal, I will prefer to sit on the fence for the time being.

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                        peasants
                        last edited by

                        sembgal:
                        Bochapmum3:

                        Will this incident affect you, as a parent, to sway against choosing this school?


                        The Principal of Nanyang Girls' High School has served the school since December 2017. She was previously at Singapore
                        Ministry of Education HQ working as (MOE)
                        Cluster Superintendent with Ministry of Education, Singapore (MOE). As a Cluster Superintendent, she must be highly experienced to lead other principals.

                        Before heading to MOE HQ, she was at Yishun Town Secondary School, appointed as Principal at Yishun Town Secondary School from December 2010 to December 2014.

                        Prior to that, she was at Chung Cheng High School (Main), promoted as a Vice Principal in Chung Cheng High School (Main) from December 2008 to September 2010. She started out at Chung Cheng High School (Main) as the Head of Department (Aesthetics) for Chung Cheng High School (Main) from 2003 to 2008.

                        This incident has indeed swayed me against choosing NYGH but considering the background of the highly-educated principal, I will prefer to sit on the fence for the time being.

                        Grounds has changed much since 2014. It will take time for the transition. This is perfectly normal. But note NYGH is a publicly high visibility top school, that's higher challenge for the P.

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