Are All Primary Schools The Same?

[janet88]

LKVM:

RRMummy:

:offtopic: your DD take coffee? Both DDs are not allowed coffee and tea. They both also avoid as they have the impression that the caffeine will make them bounce around the room like the Chipmunks

Mine also not allowed to drink either tea or coffee :imcool:

My kids have been drinking coffee for a long time...1/4 cup to kick-start the day. They love cappucino.

[KiasuKingandQueen]

All primary schools are equally good or bad as class sizes are about the same and the teachers don’t get to choose their postings. Ultimately, if the kid is precocious, he or she will do well irrespective of the school.

[Hendon]

KiasuKingandQueen\" post_id=\"1978274\" time=\"1590673760\" user_id=\"132004:

All primary schools are equally good or bad as class sizes are about the same and the teachers don't get to choose their postings. Ultimately, if the kid is precocious, he or she will do well irrespective of the school.

this kind of mindset does not explain why this forum exists.

[zac's mum]

KiasuKingandQueen\" post_id=\"1978274\" time=\"1590673760\" user_id=\"132004:

All primary schools are equally good or bad as class sizes are about the same and the teachers don't get to choose their postings. Ultimately, if the kid is precocious, he or she will do well irrespective of the school.

Maximum class size for P1 and P2 is 30. Maximum class size for P3 to P6 is 40.

But some of the less popular schools, class is only 3/4 filled. So they have better teacher:student ratio which translates to more attention per child.

Also, teachers can request to be posted to a school nearer their dwelling, for logistics reason. Furthermore, plenty of mission schools’ or famous schools’ alumni can request to be posted back to their Alma mater, so that they can “give back” to their roots. Need the principal to recommend/approve I think, but it is fairly common. It can’t be sheer coincidence that so many teachers in a school are alumni.

If your kid is precocious, yes will do well in any school. But I don’t agree that all schools are equal.

[floppy]

Revival of a 9yo thread :rotflmao:


Not all primary schools are equal; and not all primary schools are the same. The difference starts with the apex and then filters downwards.

Strictly speaking, the https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/speeches/speech-for-mr-ong-ye-kung--minister-for-education--at-the-singapore-hokkien-huay-kuan-affiliated-schools-teachers-day-appreciation-dinner-and-leap-award-presentation-ceremony in Singapore :scared: :yikes: :shock: Schools with powerful backers may be better funded and / or are able to call on more resources to carry out enrichment programmes or similar for their students, if they think it's worthwhile. Also, schools with a richer / longer history will naturally have a bigger pool of former alumni to call upon. Both are valuable networks and support to have.

FWIW, the government will only build 'standard' facilities for the schools. Government aided schools can choose to build non-standard facilities (such as gymnasium) but they will have to raise 100% of the building fund for these facilities. Many such schools did in fact utilise the opportunity provided during PRIME to build / include these 'non-standard' facilities. Guess here's an area where the two groups mentioned in the para above will come in handy :evil:

When you put that combination of better funding / resources, motivated teachers (see zac's mum comments about teachers wanting to join the school - as opposed to, you know, being 'posted'), and highly involved PSG (because kiasu parents exist, in real-life, not just on the net), the schools end up not being equal and not being the same.

[KiasuAhTan]

I would imagine the min standard is the same.


There are those that go beyond the min standard because they can afford the monies, time, interest, aspirations, energy etc.

[senthil303]

If better facilities and/or affiliation to secondary are the carrots, lack of enriching diverse environment due to lack of multi-gender, multi-racial, multilingual or multicultural are the potential trade trade-offs?

floppy\" post_id=\"1978306\" time=\"1590689114\" user_id=\"97579:

Revival of a 9yo thread :rotflmao:

Not all primary schools are equal; and not all primary schools are the same. The difference starts with the apex and then filters downwards.

Strictly speaking, the https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/speeches/speech-for-mr-ong-ye-kung--minister-for-education--at-the-singapore-hokkien-huay-kuan-affiliated-schools-teachers-day-appreciation-dinner-and-leap-award-presentation-ceremony in Singapore :scared: :yikes: :shock: Schools with powerful backers may be better funded and / or are able to call on more resources to carry out enrichment programmes or similar for their students, if they think it's worthwhile. Also, schools with a richer / longer history will naturally have a bigger pool of former alumni to call upon. Both are valuable networks and support to have.

FWIW, the government will only build 'standard' facilities for the schools. Government aided schools can choose to build non-standard facilities (such as gymnasium) but they will have to raise 100% of the building fund for these facilities. Many such schools did in fact utilise the opportunity provided during PRIME to build / include these 'non-standard' facilities. Guess here's an area where the two groups mentioned in the para above will come in handy :evil:

When you put that combination of better funding / resources, motivated teachers (see zac's mum comments about teachers wanting to join the school - as opposed to, you know, being 'posted'), and highly involved PSG (because kiasu parents exist, in real-life, not just on the net), the schools end up not being equal and not being the same.

[peasants]

Hendon\" post_id=\"1978277\" time=\"1590674246\" user_id=\"142376:

KiasuKingandQueen\" post_id=\"1978274\" time=\"1590673760\" user_id=\"132004:

All primary schools are equally good or bad as class sizes are about the same and the teachers don't get to choose their postings. Ultimately, if the kid is precocious, he or she will do well irrespective of the school.

this kind of mindset does not explain why this forum exists.

Obviously not, which is good in a way, it helps fuel my kids motivation.

[Not_Kiasu]

This is a sensitive topic that many will try not to answer if given a chance.

[ChiefKiasu]

Just like not every parent is the same, not every school is the same. If every school is the same there will be no need for balloting during P1 registration for particular schools EVERY year.


While it is true that most teachers have little say where they get posted to, a school is a combination of different administrators, teachers, students, parents… Everything everyone does will have some impact on the well being of the school. Just like Qifa Primary. In 2009, some kid from Qifa was the top PSLE scorer. Immediately, from 2010 onwards, the school is ALWAYS filled up by the end Phase 2C, and rarely, Phase 2CS. Prior to 2010, it never had to ballot at all.

So, it’s difficult to say that every school is the same, because we know that is not true. What we can say though, is that MOE has given pretty much the same for all schools, or at least the minimum given by MOE to any primary school is still pretty high. So at the minimum, every school is a good school.