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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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      Vanilla Cake
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      Dharma:
      YLH88:

      Hi Vanilla Cake, Dharma,

      Thank you!!

      Vanilla Cake,
      for this question, why do you take 21-(-35) ? Can I just take 21+35 ? It will be easier to explain to my DS, don't think they are taught on -- = + yet or I could be wrong. My DS is in P6 this year.[quote]2) Every day, Samir reads 7 pages of a story book and Dion reads 2 pages more than Samir.Dion starts to read only 5 days after Samir has started. After some time, Dion has read 21 pages more than Samir.How many pages has Samir read by then ?

      [quote]Number of pages read by Samir on a daily basis = 7
      Number of pages read by Dion on a daily basis = 7+2 = 9
      Difference = 9-7= 2 pages

      After 5 days, Samir has read 7x5 = 35 pages (Dion is behind by 35 pages)
      Number of pages for Dion to catch up = 21-(-35)=21+35=56

      56 divided by the difference = 56/2 = 28 days
      28x7=196
      By then, Samir has read 196 pages.

      Thank you!![/quote]Hi YLH88,
      The total no. of pages read by Samer = 196 + 35 =231[/quote]Hi YLH88,
      Thanks for your highlight. You are right and you can take 21+35 which is easier to explain at P6 level. As highlighted by Dharma, pls add the number of pages read by Samir for the first 5 days (5x7=35) and add on the pages read for the next 28 days(28x7=196). So, total pages read by Samir should be 35+196=231 by then (5+28=33 days).

      Thanks to Dharma for correcting my workings.

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        adhdadhd
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        Having read recent posted solutions, which were mostly solved by using algebra, I tried solving some of them using models, but it seems impossible to, as they involved multiplications of units.


        How do we then teach our kid, to consider giving up using model?

        My DS is Pri 5 now, and I can’t explain to him using algebra.

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          zenztormz
          last edited by

          adhdadhd:
          Having read recent posted solutions, which were mostly solved by using algebra, I tried solving some of them using models, but it seems impossible to, as they involved multiplications of units.


          How do we then teach our kid, to consider giving up using model?

          My DS is Pri 5 now, and I can't explain to him using algebra.
          MOE has released a publication on MODELS ... it is available in popular bookshop, you can read on that before teaching your kid...but it is kinda expensive..

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            CoffeeCat
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            adhdadhd:
            Having read recent posted solutions, which were mostly solved by using algebra, I tried solving some of them using models, but it seems impossible to, as they involved multiplications of units.


            How do we then teach our kid, to consider giving up using model?

            My DS is Pri 5 now, and I can't explain to him using algebra.
            my opinion is that models used to be powerful in my generation but very limited now that there are so many variety of challenging problems sums involving fractions and ratio. A pure model method is only going to make things look untidy when you have to divide your model into 20 equal parts. It is possible to avoid algebra for most of the questions by using branching (fraction) or ratio method.
            If I am not wrong that book is expensive but doesn't help much with the challenging ones, my opinion, might not be true.

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              KSP
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              CoffeeCat:
              adhdadhd:

              Having read recent posted solutions, which were mostly solved by using algebra, I tried solving some of them using models, but it seems impossible to, as they involved multiplications of units.


              How do we then teach our kid, to consider giving up using model?

              My DS is Pri 5 now, and I can't explain to him using algebra.

              my opinion is that models used to be powerful in my generation but very limited now that there are so many variety of challenging problems sums involving fractions and ratio. A pure model method is only going to make things look untidy when you have to divide your model into 20 equal parts. It is possible to avoid algebra for most of the questions by using branching (fraction) or ratio method.
              If I am not wrong that book is expensive but doesn't help much with the challenging ones, my opinion, might not be true.

              Have you tried this book? http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/files/file/maths_heuristics_books_utm.jpg\">

              I think is very useful.

              You can find out more from http://www.mathsheuristics.com/

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                adhdadhd
                last edited by

                Hi Zenstorm, Coffecat and KSP.

                Thank you for speedy response,
                I will look at your suggestions.

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                  Almighty
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                  Hi,


                  Please help me solve this problem

                  Gin left Town P at 6.45 a.m. and travelled at 80Km/h along a highway. Two hours later, Mr Brown left Town P and travelled at 100Km/h along the same highway. At what time did he overtake Gin?

                  Ans : 4.45Pm

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                    Sun_2010
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                    Almighty:
                    Hi,


                    Please help me solve this problem

                    Gin left Town P at 6.45 a.m. and travelled at 80Km/h along a highway. Two hours later, Mr Brown left Town P and travelled at 100Km/h along the same highway. At what time did he overtake Gin?

                    Ans : 4.45Pm

                    When Mr. Brown starts, distance between Gin and him = 2 hr x 80kmph
                    = 160km
                    Difference in between Mr. Brown and Gin's speed = 100kmph - 80kmph
                    = 20kmph

                    So time taken for Mr.Brown to catch up with Gin = 160km / 20kmph
                    = 8hrs

                    which would 2hrs+8hrs after 6:45am = 4:45pm

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                      Dharma
                      last edited by

                      Almighty:
                      Hi,


                      Please help me solve this problem

                      Gin left Town P at 6.45 a.m. and travelled at 80Km/h along a highway. Two hours later, Mr Brown left Town P and travelled at 100Km/h along the same highway. At what time did he overtake Gin?

                      Ans : 4.45Pm
                      Both Gin and Brown travelled the same distance from
                      Town P when Brown overtook Gin. So, when distance is constant, speed is inversely proportional to the time taken.
                      Speed ratio => Gin : Brown = 4:5
                      Time ratio => Gin : Brown = 5:4

                      5u - 4u = 1u = 2 hrs
                      4u = 8hrs
                      Brown overtook Gin 8 hrs after he left Town B.

                      8 hrs after 8.45am => 4.45pm

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                        YLH88
                        last edited by

                        Hi Vanilla Cake, Dharma,


                        Thank you for the explanation!!

                        Have a good day 😎

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