Teachers' Violence

[Daddy D]

Interesting....

I've also heard many horror stories of terror students/kids... less of terror teachers... so I would give the teachers the benefit of the doubt.

- How to motivate a problem child?
- How to prevent your kid from becoming a problem child?
- When do we classify the problem kid as \"beyond parental control\"?
- Do we give up hope on the problem kid, or hope that he/she still have a glimpse of hope to succeed in future?
- A problem child is due to parents' failure in guidance?

:? :? :?

[markfch]

atutor2001:

duriz:

I was also a teacher.
While waiting for my NIE training, I did relief-teaching at a sec sch.
After a non-event first week, at the end of the day, I was walking to my car when a group of 6 boys and girls (average age 16) surrounded me. They'd wanted to beat me up for giving me homework for the weekend. A fellow (male) teacher who had been with the school for 3 years came to my rescue. He said to the teens:\"I'm very scared but I will fight you if I have to.\"......

Hi duriz,
Very scary experiences you have shared. No wonder many of my friends quit the moment they completed their bonds. But I must say that the male teacher is very cool and clever in handling those hooligans.

A friend of my whose son is a slow learner went to NT in sec sch complained to mummy that he couldn't hear when the teacher is teaching. He said that while the teacher is teaching, more than half the class are talking or playing cards and sometimes even smoking behind the class. The teacher just act blur like nothing had happened. It's like what we see in movie....

Another teacher friend told me once she sent a notorious student to stand outside the class. Soon everyone intentionally fooled around so that they also got to join that guy outside the class. The best part was after awhile, some of them disappeared and left the school. Poor friend had to go hunting for them, and promised herself never to let anyone out of the class again.

Is so unfair as far as teachers are concerned right? Those teaching in top sch will get the 'right' calibre students and receive the accolades when their students do well. Those teaching dilinquents have a much harder time and they will never get any public recognition, only brickbats when their charges misbehave.

[jeestan]

duriz:

I was also a teacher.
While waiting for my NIE training, I did relief-teaching at a sec sch.
After a non-event first week, at the end of the day, I was walking to my car when a group of 6 boys and girls (average age 16) surrounded me. They'd wanted to beat me up for giving me homework for the weekend. A fellow (male) teacher who had been with the school for 3 years came to my rescue. He said to the teens:\"I'm very scared but I will fight you if I have to.\" Thinking back, it was very chivalrous of him as he is a middle aged man, quite short and rather stocky.
Now I can laugh about it.
Back then, I was terrified.
When I completed my training, I was posted to teach in a prmary school. After two months, I took over the internet skills class. The first afternoon I conducted the class, a P6 boy was late (because he was smoking in the corridor - I saw him), so I made him stand at the door. He stood at the door alright - and cussed my grandparents and parents and of course me. I made him stay back after school and asked for a meeting with his parents. Two days later, his mother came to school. She was smoking (just like the son) and cussed me before I could explain my case. She insisted that I had provoked him to gain such a reaction from him. The principal and I went through what we had planned for the young man and they made their exit. When I was walking to my car, the boy's father (who'd came to pick them up) came up to me to apologise. The funniest thing is that the boys' father was my senior back in sec sch.
Small world!
Is it tought to be a teacher in Singapore?
You bet.
Does it justify to use physical violence on our children?
No.

p/s I also remember public caning during my school days.
Not pretty.
But I don't know how effective that was.

Hey duriz, I also used to be a teacher! Went to a secondary school NA class to teach as a relief teacher to get a feel of what is like first. The students need lots of time to be won over. One student shouted at me when I asked him to sweep the floor. But that was the extent that I got. Thankfully I was posted to a primary school to teach after NIE.

One incident stood out in my mind, there was a student whose mother wanted to check all my worksheets before I gave them out to make sure they were of quality and would also talk to the principal about my teaching methods which included making the girl stay back to finish her work and reprimanding her when she did not bring her work repeatedly. Of course, principal took her side and asked me not to ask the girl to stay back. So I had to have double standards when I taught that class, one standard for the rest who did not do their work and one specially for her. :stupid:

[jeestan]

markfch:

Is so unfair as far as teachers are concerned right? Those teaching in top sch will get the 'right' calibre students and receive the accolades when their students do well. Those teaching dilinquents have a much harder time and they will never get any public recognition, only brickbats when their charges misbehave.

That's right, actually some teachers that I know who are still teaching work wonders with the foundation class and even do home visits as some of their students do not even have proper meals. So they even buy food for them but they do not get recognised and the principals always talk about the teachers of the good classes because they are the ones producing the results..quite sad.

[duriz]

markfch:

Is so unfair as far as teachers are concerned right? Those teaching in top sch will get the 'right' calibre students and receive the accolades when their students do well. Those teaching dilinquents have a much harder time and they will never get any public recognition, only brickbats when their charges misbehave.

Life is unfair.
As parents of young and schooling children, we are of course very concerned and passionate about our young ones.
But as adults, we know that this too shall pass.
Occasionally I run into the children I'd taught, around my neighborhood. They still remember me and call me \"cher\", some of them even asked/offered to hold and play with DD.
I'm also glad to report that a few of the delinquents had made it to better sec schools. One even quit school to run his own financial consultancy firm with two friends. All at the tender age of 18. He'd told me that they were doing well.
Am glad to hear.
It's always nice to see them, all grown up. Even better when they are doing well for themselves.

[verykiasu2010]

markfch:

Is so unfair as far as teachers are concerned right? Those teaching in top sch will get the 'right' calibre students and receive the accolades when their students do well. Those teaching dilinquents have a much harder time and they will never get any public recognition, only brickbats when their charges misbehave.

even in those \"top\" schools, they have delinquents too. it is a misguided idea that they don't have

and some teachers are made to teach the top class as well as the bottom class too

markfch, you should know which school i am referring to

[duriz]

:offtopic:


markfch, is your throat all better now?

[Brenda10]

jeestan:

Hey duriz, I also used to be a teacher! Went to a secondary school NA class to teach as a relief teacher to get a feel of what is like first. The students need lots of time to be won over. One student shouted at me when I asked him to sweep the floor. But that was the extent that I got. Thankfully I was posted to a primary school to teach after NIE.


One incident stood out in my mind, there was a student whose mother wanted to check all my worksheets before I gave them out to make sure they were of quality and would also talk to the principal about my teaching methods which included making the girl stay back to finish her work and reprimanding her when she did not bring her work repeatedly. Of course, principal took her side and asked me not to ask the girl to stay back. So I had to have double standards when I taught that class, one standard for the rest who did not do their work and one specially for her. :stupid:

This make me recall the 1st meeting held by the form teacher to the parents this January. The teacher requested us to let her know whoever child cannot tahan scold in the class and she would handle them differently. However, all parents just keep quite and may be this make the teacher's job easier.

[verykiasu2010]

jeestan:

markfch:

Is so unfair as far as teachers are concerned right? Those teaching in top sch will get the 'right' calibre students and receive the accolades when their students do well. Those teaching dilinquents have a much harder time and they will never get any public recognition, only brickbats when their charges misbehave.

That's right, actually some teachers that I know who are still teaching work wonders with the foundation class and even do home visits as some of their students do not even have proper meals. So they even buy food for them but they do not get recognised and the principals always talk about the teachers of the good classes because they are the ones producing the results..quite sad.

that could be just an anecdotal observation, in terms of hard work not acknowledged

principals are normally appreciative for that

some of my friends who went the extra mile are duly recognised

and one other friend as a principal who personally went about on home visit etc etc was publicly recognised too

[markfch]

verykiasu2010:

even in those \"top\" schools, they have delinquents too. it is a misguided idea that they don't have

and some teachers are made to teach the top class as well as the bottom class too

markfch, you should know which school i am referring to

Even top schs have delinquents? :shock:

Boy, I can be so naive sometimes :oops:

Think I can guess which sch you're referring to.