PSLE 2010 Results Report Here
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aikidocat:
Can someone advise if it is better to select Raffles Girls or Nanyang Girls? My daughter has score of 272 + 3 for Higher Chinese. We have an English speaking environment at home so not sure if she can adapt to the culture and environment in Nanyang Girls. On the other hand, Raffles Girls seems to be a very competitive environment so not sure if teachers are caring.
My girl is a Sec 2 (going Sec 3) girl in NYGH. We are also a English-speaking family, and she did not take higher chinese in primary school. Initially we were also worried that she could not cope with higher chinese, but I am glad to share that she has been coping very well over the last 2 years. Of course effort has to be put in cos her foundation is not very strong. So, your daughter, with her high T-score and higher Chinese, will definitely be able to cope. Hope this helps.
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verykiasu2010:
MOE will rank results first, not the choices.
If applying to SAP school, A = 240, B= 241, C=239iikengkeng:
This COP issue is very important to all parents/students so I wish to get it right.
Can anyone provide some webpage or info that the published COP includes HMT?
If student A has 240 and student B has 239+2 and student C has 239 and all select Anglican, who will get in first? I think it's student A.
When we put in the 6 choices, there could a mix of SAP and non SAP schools. how can MOE rank? Likely to be just the score without HMT.
If student A gets in first before B and then the last COP is 239, student B will get in first before C. So then, what will be the published COP. Is it 240 (student A's score) or 241 (student B's score)?
Anyone who has the right info, plse provide....thank you in advance.
JMHO
If applying to non-SAP school, A = 240, B=239, C=239
That is how MOE computer will rank. This has been pointed out the primary school principal briefing on result day
There will be a sequencing problem.... -
iikengkeng:
MOE will rank results first, not the choices.
If applying to SAP school, A = 240, B= 241, C=239verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"iikengkeng\"]
This COP issue is very important to all parents/students so I wish to get it right.
Can anyone provide some webpage or info that the published COP includes HMT?
If student A has 240 and student B has 239+2 and student C has 239 and all select Anglican, who will get in first? I think it's student A.
When we put in the 6 choices, there could a mix of SAP and non SAP schools. how can MOE rank? Likely to be just the score without HMT.
If student A gets in first before B and then the last COP is 239, student B will get in first before C. So then, what will be the published COP. Is it 240 (student A's score) or 241 (student B's score)?
Anyone who has the right info, plse provide....thank you in advance.
JMHO
If applying to non-SAP school, A = 240, B=239, C=239
That is how MOE computer will rank. This has been pointed out the primary school principal briefing on result day
There will be a sequencing problem....[/quote]MOE rank the student with the highest t-score first, i.e. the student with the highest t-score gets to choose his schools first before anyone else,and it goes done the line, hence PSLE is a placement exam -
verykiasu2010:
MOE rank the student with the highest t-score first, i.e. the student with the highest t-score gets to choose his schools first before anyone else,and it goes done the line, hence PSLE is a placement exam[/quote]Exactly, hightest t-score is ranked first. then, how do u rank student A (240) and student B (239+2) before looking at what school they select?
MOE will rank results first, not the choices.iikengkeng:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
If applying to SAP school, A = 240, B= 241, C=239
If applying to non-SAP school, A = 240, B=239, C=239
That is how MOE computer will rank. This has been pointed out the primary school principal briefing on result day
There will be a sequencing problem.... -
iikengkeng:
MOE will rank results first, not the choices.
If applying to SAP school, A = 240, B= 241, C=239verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"iikengkeng\"]
This COP issue is very important to all parents/students so I wish to get it right.
Can anyone provide some webpage or info that the published COP includes HMT?
If student A has 240 and student B has 239+2 and student C has 239 and all select Anglican, who will get in first? I think it's student A.
When we put in the 6 choices, there could a mix of SAP and non SAP schools. how can MOE rank? Likely to be just the score without HMT.
If student A gets in first before B and then the last COP is 239, student B will get in first before C. So then, what will be the published COP. Is it 240 (student A's score) or 241 (student B's score)?
Anyone who has the right info, plse provide....thank you in advance.
JMHO
If applying to non-SAP school, A = 240, B=239, C=239
That is how MOE computer will rank. This has been pointed out the primary school principal briefing on result day
There will be a sequencing problem....[/quote]iikengkeng,
NYGH has stated very clearly that the COP includes HMT bonus points. Go here http://www.nygh.moe.edu.sg/, click FAQs under Sec 1 Appeal. So that's very clear. COP is INCLUSIVE OF HMT.
In your eg., the scores that the computer will take into account is:
A: 240, B: 241, 239.
Student B will get in first, then A, then C.
The MOE computers will rank the students such that if they are applying to SAP schools their bonus points will be taken into consideration. So no sequencing problem. -
My oldest daughter went to NYGH and my youngest daughter went to RGS, both of them were from RGPS. I can say that both are good choices. NYGH has more emphasis on Chinese language and culture. We have an English speaking environment at home. My oldest daughter is strong on her language skills, she is from GEP, there were some rough patches because of the changes in the GEP education transistion to IP but those are all over now, so IP is very much stablized. The youngest daughter in RGS also love her school because of the ethos and legacy of the school. The new principal is quite a dynamic lady. Go visit both the school and speak with the principal, teachers & students to get a feel and then examine the strengths and interest of your child to decide. Both are good choices.
lizawa:
I think both are equally good schools. You can take distance, range of CCAs, school culture into consideration when you select the schools. If your DD has scored 3 for Higher Chinese, her Chinese has to be quite good.aikidocat:
Can someone advise if it is better to select Raffles Girls or Nanyang Girls? My daughter has score of 272 + 3 for Higher Chinese. We have an English speaking environment at home so not sure if she can adapt to the culture and environment in Nanyang Girls. On the other hand, Raffles Girls seems to be a very competitive environment so not sure if teachers are caring.
If you have an English speaking environment at home, it will be good for her to go to NYGH for more Chinese exposure. Then, she will be well balanced. Eventually, regardless of RGS or NYGH, all the students take the same Higher chinese paper at O-levels. If you are more exposed to the language, chances of doing better will be higher.
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ideaquest:
When were your daughters in NYGH and RGS respectively?My oldest daughter went to NYGH and my youngest daughter went to RGS, both of them were from RGPS. I can say that both are good choices. NYGH has more emphasis on Chinese language and culture. We have an English speaking environment at home. My oldest daughter is strong on her language skills, she is from GEP, there were some rough patches because of the changes in the GEP education transistion to IP but those are all over now, so IP is very much stablized. The youngest daughter in RGS also love her school because of the ethos and legacy of the school. The new principal is quite a dynamic lady. Go visit both the school and speak with the principal, teachers & students to get a feel and then examine the strengths and interest of your child to decide. Both are good choices.
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Staying in woodlands. Is in dilemma in choosing either St Nick or Nan Hua for my DD. Can anyone give some advice? Thanks
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verykiasu2010:
MOE rank the student with the highest t-score first, i.e. the student with the highest t-score gets to choose his schools first before anyone else,and it goes done the line, hence PSLE is a placement exam
vk2010, the issue comes when there is a mix of SAP schools and non-SAP schools in the choices.
Let me restate iikengkeng's' doubt with a hopefully clearer example of 3 kids A, B, C and D.
(Assume no other kid in this range, all decimal places for all 3 scores as 0)
tscore= 261; no HCL; choices: 1. RGS 2.NYGS 3. VS
A: tscore= 260; no HCL; choices: 1. RGS 2.NYGS 3. VS
B: tscore= 259; HCL: Merit ; choices: 1. RGS 2.NYGS 3. VS tscore= 258; HCL: Distinction; choices: 1. RGS 2.NYGS 3. VS
MOE system:
1 seat left for RGS; 1 seat for NYGS
First D get in to RGS - straightforward.
Questions to be answered
1.\tNow for A, B, C who is considererd next?
2.\tWho gets the NYGS?
Personally I think it will a complex iteration. And my guess is
1.\tA should consideresd next. Since choice 1 is out, choice 2 will be considered. This being a SAP school and no HCL marks to be added, system will calculate his \"SAPSchoolScore\"= 260 and put his case on hold)
2.\tThen B is considered. Since choice 1 is out, choice 2 will be considered. This being a SAP school and 2 HCL marks to be added system will calculate his \"SAPSchoolScore\"=261 and put his case on hold)
3.\tThen C is considered. Since choice 1 is out, choice 2 will be considered. This being a SAP school and 3 HCL marks to be added system will calculate his \"SAPSchoolScore\"=261 and put his case on hold)
4.\tNow it will evauate that though B and C are tied in their \"SAPSchoolScore\" , B has a higher Tscore so will be choosen
5.\tAnd the COP for NYGS will be stated as 261
Ok this is a very simplified example, surely MOE must have worked out a hundred different scenarios and how to process the options -
snowsam:
Staying in woodlands. Is in dilemma in choosing either St Nick or Nan Hua for my DD. Can anyone give some advice? Thanks
St Nic's is a all girls school. Nan hua is mixed. Both are SAP schools but St Nic's is also a mission school. I believe St Nics standard is slightly higher than Nan Hua. I don't know what is your DD's score but for me, I prefer a all girls' school for my DD to a mixed school.
St Nics is functioning at a temporary location in Toa Payoh and will move back to their upgraded campus. Since the school will become IP in a couple of years' time, I would think that it would get more \"funding\" from MOE. Just a guess.
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