Dunman High vs River Valley High

[WeiHan]

rosecy:

wonderm:

[quote=\"INNOVATE\"]Just like its is difficult to compare HCI family with RI family on academic terms alone. If one wishes to compare strictly on academic area, than NGHS should be chosen over RGS and HCI over RI. Why then i see so many choosing the reverse?

For the brand name and prestige?

In my view, even if we want to narrow the comparison to academic of 2 schools, it is quite meaningless to simply look at % of As or number of awards won at competitions. We have to ask ourselves whether such \"better results\" are due to better students intake (due to different COP) or due to the value-add from school. More importantly, we really have to ask ourselves, what such % really mean to our kid. If he is getting As and winning award, does it matter if his school has a lower % than another school? Reversely, if our kids are not getting As and not winning awards, so what their school has a higher % than another school?

In short, we know all these schools mentioned are good schools and that's more than enough. The rest is really up to each child. Not forgetting academic result is just one aspect of education.

fully agree. RI/RGS/HCI/NYG took in the best every year. good results are expected but have these schools value-add to the students? think not.

just done a search on MOE website. RV received the Sustained Achievement Award for Academic Value-Added for 2007 & 2008 (last O lvl cohort) while DHS has never got it. SAA is for 3 consecutive years of achievement. So RV already value adds her students since 2005.[/quote]We have to be careful that, probably, if the student COP gets higher, it becomes increasingly more difficult to value-add. Having said that, I have to acknowledge that RV is one rare school that has high COP (always higher than 250) and yet can still value-add (academic).

[tabletennis]

Augmum:

tabletennis:

:celebrate: relax, i don't want to offend anyone here. just sharing my experience. maybe dunman high offer holy-man education. but that's really not the main reason why my daughter goes to school. good a-level exam results after IP is more realistic. dunman high a-level exam results didn't tally with the 'we-have-one-president-scholar' campaign. it's just not enough to convince me. sorry. and given there are other schools to choose..

puzzle with yr sentence in bold, but we are yet to see RV \"A\" level results leh.....
for sec sch's selection, besides academics, there are still other factors to look for
1 am 1 parent (amongst others) who believes to look beyond the academics, otherwise my 1 st choice last yr would def be RGS.....

ManU123:

academic results isn't everything
but is impt is whether the school can produce an all-rounded student with good character, leadership, etc..

:celebrate: Merry X'mas, Augmum. Hope your child will excel in dunman high and mine will in river valley. Cheers!

[tabletennis]

WeiHan:

rosecy:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]
For the brand name and prestige?

In my view, even if we want to narrow the comparison to academic of 2 schools, it is quite meaningless to simply look at % of As or number of awards won at competitions. We have to ask ourselves whether such \"better results\" are due to better students intake (due to different COP) or due to the value-add from school. More importantly, we really have to ask ourselves, what such % really mean to our kid. If he is getting As and winning award, does it matter if his school has a lower % than another school? Reversely, if our kids are not getting As and not winning awards, so what their school has a higher % than another school?

In short, we know all these schools mentioned are good schools and that's more than enough. The rest is really up to each child. Not forgetting academic result is just one aspect of education.

fully agree. RI/RGS/HCI/NYG took in the best every year. good results are expected but have these schools value-add to the students? think not.

just done a search on MOE website. RV received the Sustained Achievement Award for Academic Value-Added for 2007 & 2008 (last O lvl cohort) while DHS has never got it. SAA is for 3 consecutive years of achievement. So RV already value adds her students since 2005.

We have to be careful that, probably, if the student COP gets higher, it becomes increasingly more difficult to value-add. Having said that, I have to acknowledge that RV is one rare school that has high COP (always higher than 250) and yet can still value-add (academic).[/quote]Well said, mate!
:celebrate:

[sall]

daisyt:

sall:

I feel sad that people have low opinion of RV. My daughter is eligible for RGS or NYGHS, but we chose RV instead. Everyone who asked for her score n her choice of sch was shocked that I chose RV. They felt that she should choose an elite sch since she is sure to get a place there. Dunman high has higher COP, so in general, people feel that it is better than RV.

No need be sad, everyone has their own instint. Dd's pri sch was in the north and RV was not known to most of her pri sch mates. A few even made fun of her St John look like uniform when she first home visited pri sch with that uniform.

Daisy, are u staying in the North, what's the travelling time for dd? I actually like the uniform of RV, very prim and smart, esp the buttons.

[rosecy]

WeiHan:

rosecy:

fully agree. RI/RGS/HCI/NYG took in the best every year. good results are expected but have these schools value-add to the students? think not.

just done a search on MOE website. RV received the Sustained Achievement Award for Academic Value-Added for 2007 & 2008 (last O lvl cohort) while DHS has never got it. SAA is for 3 consecutive years of achievement. So RV already value adds her students since 2005.

We have to be careful that, probably, if the student COP gets higher, it becomes increasingly more difficult to value-add. Having said that, I have to acknowledge that RV is one rare school that has high COP (always higher than 250) and yet can still value-add (academic).

yup i agree with you. RI/RGS/HCI/NYG prior IP do value-add their students too, though they never sustain for 3 consecutive years.

[daisyt]

sall:

Daisy, are u staying in the North, what's the travelling time for dd? I actually like the uniform of RV, very prim and smart, esp the buttons.

Yes, travelling by MRT, then bus (2 bus stops from BL interchange), total 45 mins.

Yes, I feel that their uniform is very unique. :celebrate:

[Augmum]

tabletennis:

:celebrate: Merry X'mas, Augmum. Hope your child will excel in dunman high and mine will in river valley. Cheers!

No worries ......
have faith in our kids. They all will do well..... :celebrate:

[NdHelpParent]

sall:

I feel sad that people have low opinion of RV. My daughter is eligible for RGS or NYGHS, but we chose RV instead. Everyone who asked for her score n her choice of sch was shocked that I chose RV. They felt that she should choose an elite sch since she is sure to get a place there. Dunman high has higher COP, so in general, people feel that it is better than RV.

Hi, I can assure you that you or your child has certainly made a right choice. Not sure about DHS but based on mine and my friends, RV is a good school to be in

[sall]

NdHelpParent:

sall:

I feel sad that people have low opinion of RV. My daughter is eligible for RGS or NYGHS, but we chose RV instead. Everyone who asked for her score n her choice of sch was shocked that I chose RV. They felt that she should choose an elite sch since she is sure to get a place there. Dunman high has higher COP, so in general, people feel that it is better than RV.

Hi, I can assure you that you or your child has certainly made a right choice. Not sure about DHS but based on mine and my friends, RV is a good school to be in

Thanks, I'm very happy to read this.

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