Asian Mums are more SUPERIOR?
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2ppaamm, after reading some of your posts, I think you’re such an exceptional mum with amazingly gifted kids. Yes, it’s definitely more difficult to train a child to discover their passion, than just disciplining and pushing them to do what we want.
Mind sharing where your 14 year old girl is headed for university? What is she going to major in? -
2ppaamm:
You are amazing. And you have 2 pianos in the house? We have 8 persons living in a 1100 sq ft - no space for too many instruments. I thought your elder daughter did violin at NAFA? Thought was your no.1 & no.3 that did piano at NAFA.With music, I was lucky, but I wished I had been luckier.
On the piano, I am grade zero. When I was a eleven, I wanted to play the piano. My mother put me in piano classes but my father would not allow me to move the piano into the house even though my mother had already paid for it because his friends told him so (I still don't understand why). So, I made a keyboard out of a piece of drawing block, drawing lines and colouring in the black keys using black coloured pencils and covered it up with the plastic wrapping paper that we used to wrap books with. On that plastic silent piano I made great progress. I finished Grade 1 books in a week, then moved to Grade 4 books in a year. Whenever this plastic piano gets torn and tattered, I'd spend time making an even stronger one by putting a stronger backing to it. Strangely, even playing on these silent self-made pianos, I had developed a perfect pitch by 'hearing' the pitch in my head and playing the music on my fingers.
One year later, my father moved to stop my piano classes because of PSLE. He wanted me to focus on my studies instead of humming to that piece of paper. So that's the end of my piano exposure. Loved it, but never had a chance to pursue it meaningfully. I did well for the PSLE, we did not have a T-score, but I knew I did well because I went to the top girls' school, and I was placed in the top class. In those days, you don't need tuition or study very hard to do that, so I did not understand how that plastic piece of joy would have made a difference. It was sad for me.
In secondary school, I picked up 6 other instruments by my own, and completed Grade 7 theory through self-study, I scored distinctions for all the grades. Somehow, I was identified gifted by a SSO flutist who wanted to keep me as an apprentice. I didn't believe a word she said, I thought she just wanted me to pay her $10 more per month, now how could I ever be gifted?! Then, I dropped the flute as well, even though I made it to the best orchestra for youths at that time, and shared the stage with the most famous musicians. I never thought I was anything talented.
With my children, I have never wanted them to pursue music. It was all a coincidence. I was working near NAFA and walked into the school one day out of curiosity. Then, I was told there was an audition and I just signed my son up. Surprisingly, he became the oldest kid who got into the gifted program. Being a pure amateur, he managed to clear 3 grades while the rest of the more experienced cleared 2 in 6 months. Music entered my children's lives this way.
Sometimes, I reflect upon why I put my children through music classes and bother to sit through the practices day after day, month after month and year after year, child after child. It was not easy to breastfeed and sit at the piano while they practiced. It was not easy to sit through sometimes six hours when I was pregnant and sweating from the pain in my back and the pressure from the baby's head pressing against my bones. It was even harder to explain to the teachers why my son could not play this difficult part and why he scored 135 and not 140+, and because I didn't grill him enough, the teachers and principal therefore want him to repeat that grade to 'reach his potential'. It was also extremely difficult to make the decision to pull my children out of gifted programs everyone crave to get into.
Like all the great mothers who have shared here, I guess our goals are quite the same. We want our children to achieve something beyond what their minds' eyes can see. And we encourage them through actions, through words of encouragement and through our noses. At the end of the day, that diploma or grade 8 certificate means nothing compared to the tenacity they have learnt. I use my untrained fingers to show my children that if I can do it, so can they. Others use even better and more sophisticated methods. In the end, it is not the excellence that I want to instill but the perseverance. The former builds pride, but the latter builds character.
My oldest two no longer attend formal music lessons, and DS1 only plays some dissonance sound on the piano once in a while and I often wonder if he will ever use the 3 diplomas he earned through our hard work. But it did not matter. I know that because of his music education, he learnt how to work hard, sometimes into the nights, to believe in himself, and to use all resources within him to achieve the impossible. He'll never be a Mozart or any kind of performer. But he has bettered himself through music. I've fulfilled my job in giving him an education. -
rosemummy:
behind every sad/bad situation, there us always a positive end. My daughter how i struggled with my asd chikd abd could not find help. or perhaps shefound some interesting characters on cable tv. She now wants to be the best psychologist in singapore one day. She will be majoring in that.2ppaamm, after reading some of your posts, I think you're such an exceptional mum with amazingly gifted kids. Yes, it's definitely more difficult to train a child to discover their passion, than just disciplining and pushing them to do what we want.
Mind sharing where your 14 year old girl is headed for university? What is she going to major in? -
phankao:
We have now three keyboards in the house. #2 was in NAFA violin when #1 was doing piano in NAFA. We then had to move to China for a few months and did not take the internal exams. As such, both were out of NAFA. When we returned, NAFA took #1 back (first in history) but I didn't bother to ask for #2 to return, because I really couldn't help her much on the violin. The violin is so small, and I get a neck ache from playing and scrambling for the strings, and I was too stingy to buy a full-sized violin. She then asked me to teach her the piano. I did, until grade 5, even though I did not have any qualification. I then got #1's teacher to teach #2 and #3. By then, I had taught #3 to grade 3 as well. We didn't put any more children through NAFA, in fact, we stopped #1 attending NAFA regularly as well when he was asked to repeat a grade despite scoring a distinction in ABRSM. I felt it was a demotivational thingy but I understood that NAFA was trying to 'make the best out of him'. Sometimes, I wonder if that was the right decision, but it's not important to make the right decision. We RIGHT every decision and move on.
You are amazing. And you have 2 pianos in the house? We have 8 persons living in a 1100 sq ft - no space for too many instruments. I thought your elder daughter did violin at NAFA? Thought was your no.1 & no.3 that did piano at NAFA. -
2ppaamm is amazing in many many ways. To even have 5 kids! And to homeschool! I love the wisdom you show in parenting. Shall pray that I can embody some of it. Thanks for sharing what you’ve learnt through your experience - it really helps to inspire me!
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toddles:
2ppaamm is amazing in many many ways. To even have 5 kids! And to homeschool! I love the wisdom you show in parenting. Shall pray that I can embody some of it. Thanks for sharing what you've learnt through your experience - it really helps to inspire me!
I second that.
I am always very impressed with mothers who homeschool their kids. You are amazing!
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:thankyou: for sharing 2ppaamm.
Your articles inspire me, always ... :salute:
My DS is attending keyboard lessons. Initially I relegated my DH to practice whatever DS learnt during keyboard lessons with him cuz he's got music background, unlike me. Another reason was that I felt was that one should best stick to what one was good/skillful in.
After reading your articles here, I am now motivated to take this responsibility upon myself. I will go and take a look at his books and see what I can do. Positively speaking, this will give me an opportunity to 'take up' a musical instrument, which frankly, used to be a dream of mine when I was younger. Another plus point, more bonding time with DS
I will give this my best shot and see if it works out
On a separate note, I am really happy for you that things are working out for your DS :celebrate: :celebrate: -
2ppaamm:
It is really inspiring!
She threw her arms up in desperation and said, \"You do it, lah!\" Well, I couldn't. I thought to myself, what right do I have to demand she does it when I couldn't myself. It took me a week, but I worked on the part myself. My stiff old fingers which was aching from all the housework. But I did it. One afternoon, when she was playing the same piece, I played alongside her in the upstairs piano when she was downstairs playing.
She did not express much. She came upstairs and said, \"You can play it, when did you practice?\" I told her that I wanted to show her it is possible and from then on, she never challenged me again, and she did finish her grade 8 when she was 11 with a good score. She knew that even though she is not the most gifted on the piano, it is possible to do something beyond her abilities. I had to show her that I can too.
That's why 99% successful kids have a excellent mother behind them... -
Yes… I think 2ppaamm is amazing too! Very dedicated mother…
After homeschooling The Daughter for 6 months whilst we were living in the USA, I became a homeschooling convert. You could teach so much in so little time and have time left over to chase ducks and go fishing.
I’m ashamed to say that I backed off academically when I reckoned that we had reached a point where I thought she could kinda keep her grades up enough… We worked 2 to 3 hours every morning and played the rest of the day. I know I didn’t push her hard enough or far enough but the stint in USA was a year long holiday and I wanted us to enjoy it.
Then, when we came home, I looked at my own needs and then I looked at my children’s needs… and I put them back in school. I couldn’t bring myself to give up work and alone time for them. Once in a while though, I will keep the kids home a day or 2 for intensive homeschooling. We can master one new math topic a day. 2 days of homeschool takes care of 1 term of math sometimes.
Little Boy reckons that going to school is to play and make friends whilst the intensive work happens when he stays home with me. In school, they wait around a lot (and clown about some).
It takes a very dedicated mother to homeschool but with homeschooling kids can really perform wonders. I couldn’t do it. So 2ppaamm, you’re AMAZING!!
And 5 kids?! Big gulp We thought so long about #3 and then decided against having him/her. -
I got a Kindle version of the book. It’s very entertaining. After 2 minutes of reading, she has already admitted "I had underestimated Lulu… She would sooner freeze to death than give in".
Gosh! This is a story of a woman writing about how her daughter conquered HER… again and again and again.
It’s about a proud mother’s humilation. Gee… I can relate to that. I can SO relate to that!!
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