2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take
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Scary:
I'm curious, how did you get the figures that quite a number of vacancies in the earlier phases are taken up by PRs. If you have the numbers, could you post it by phases?
Also, quite a no. of vacancies in the earlier phases are taken up by PRs. -
LOLMum:
The current system is unfair to Singaporeans. Should allow Singaporeans to register in all phases from Phase 1 - 2C using the current model. Strike off PRs from Phase 1 - 2C and put them under 3, 3A etc (maybe 3 for existing siblings in schools, 3A for old students) unless the schools can justify that they are needed in areas of work that Singaporeans can't perform under 2B. By doing this, Singaporeans regardless where they live still get the same priorities if they are old students, PVs, etc. However, there will definitely be more places to go around under 2B and 2C.the current system might not be fair to all but at least everyone (rich or poor, well educated or uneducated, living next to or far away from choice school, different races) have a chance to study in elite schools.
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Yes, Scary totally agree with you.
all educational needs of fellow Singaporean born kids must be met FIRST!.
PR needs must queue up AFTER all Singaporean kids had enrolled.
Then it's fair. After all, this is our country SINGAPORE! -
SAHM_TAN:
Don't think any one/school will release the figures without MOE's approval but one should be able to tell that they do take up the vacancies that could have been offered to the Singaporeans. If you go to Jurong and stand outside any of the schools/child care centres, you will know what I mean.
I'm curious, how did you get the figures that quite a number of vacancies in the earlier phases are taken up by PRs. If you have the numbers, could you post it by phases?Scary:
Also, quite a no. of vacancies in the earlier phases are taken up by PRs.
Maybe some parents who are PVs will be able to tell us if there are PRs PVs in their batch. Personally, I have friends who have been complaining that there are a couple of PRCs PRs in one of the top primary schools. I have an Indian friend who has been in Sg for 16 years. Still a PR and son attends Princess Elizabeth.
Oh yes, there is a quota for PRs to be grassroot leaders. Though there is a quota, they can still be one and go under Phase 2B.
Having said all these, we do need to be sensitive towards the issues that may arise if PRs are to be placed after Singaporeans. I am not into politics, thus don't want to crack my brain as to what issues may arise. However, I am upset that as a loyal Singaporean, I am not given priority in registration vs PRs (some PRs even override me and register in earlier phases). -
SAHM_TAN:
[/quote]I am referring to point a) where parent who had studied in the school before. why bother join alumni, when you can get almost the same outcome for FREE. Just show your report book. Overall, I think P2A2 should be scrapped. combine point b to P2A1 or P2B.zhuangzi:
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But in what ways are they abusing P2A2? The rules for P2A2 are
a) For a child whose parent or sibling has studied in the school of choice
b) For a child whose parent is a staff member of the school of choice
It's very clear, how to abuse? There's no loophole, except maybe for b) whereby a teacher can ask for transfer to school of choice or a job applicant can try to apply for a job in the school of choice when the school is hiring. But for b) how many cases? -
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I am referring to point a) where parent who had studied in the school before. why bother join alumni, when you can get almost the same outcome for FREE. Just show your report book. Overall, I think P2A2 should be scrapped. combine point b to P2A1 or P2B.[/quote]
If they scrapped P2A2 then all the ex-student will join alumni. so really don't make any difference unless they allow non ex-student to join the alumni
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i believe sooner or later, p2a1 and p2a2 woud be put together and the no. vacancies after phase 1 will be split equally among p2a1+p2a2(combined group), p2b and p2c these 3 groups and any balloting required will be according to distance.
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zhuangzi:
By not joining alumni is not abuse becos the rule allows it. How about ex-student who are just 13yos, they have to join alumni too?
I am referring to point a) where parent who had studied in the school before. why bother join alumni, when you can get almost the same outcome for FREE. Just show your report book. Overall, I think P2A2 should be scrapped. combine point b to P2A1 or P2B.SAHM_TAN:
But in what ways are they abusing P2A2? The rules for P2A2 are
a) For a child whose parent or sibling has studied in the school of choice
b) For a child whose parent is a staff member of the school of choice
It's very clear, how to abuse? There's no loophole, except maybe for b) whereby a teacher can ask for transfer to school of choice or a job applicant can try to apply for a job in the school of choice when the school is hiring. But for b) how many cases? -
Hi Scary
I do agreed with you somehow.
With a 2 chance of balloting slip is meant to me none if I dun even have the chance to ballot.
Anyway, this exercise needs to carry on for this year, now grumble a bit too late. This can only be improve in future, whether to strike off phase 2B or whether Singaporean given priority.
This system definitely making parents to be KS.
Good luck all fellow Singaporean. -
The game changer depends heavily on the child who sit for the PSLE and not as much as the different phases (among other cases, the recent Qifa Primary School Chinese girl proved it).
As such, isn’t foreigner transfer student from non english speaking country who manage to secure places in 1 to 3 lower level poses greater unjustification to Singaporean as a whole than the different phases ?
On the whole, I have no doubt about their ability to learn and excel, hardworking attitude and determination…etc to make them successful but the playing field must be level. Our education system must not provide leeway for foreigner to catch up on their language skill at the expense of local students. Worst still, our students is suffering in mandrian as well.
Although the number of students might be small but I believe their result will skew the aggregate PSLE score, making it even harder for Singaporean child to get into popular secondary school.
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