Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

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Trapwithin:

Scary:

Or the school purposely did that to show it's popularity?

Don't think so, that's why they turn down a lot of PV because they know there will be palces taken up by the church members. I read somewhere in this thread that the P always want to ensure all PV gets in, but sometime it kind of hard to predict.

Last yr 20+ pvs and a couple of them did not get in. This yr increase no. of PVs and yet reduce class. Don't see the logic. Actually their PVs no. kind of high this yr. It's comparable to some top schools without church affiliation or even more.

If I am the P, I will use last yr's stats less 15 due to reduction in class no., i.e. 29 vacancies at phase 2B. If take in 33 PVs, definitely many will not be able to get in. Even if use 44 vacancies and take in 33 PVs, how can church members and GRL be only 11 when there are 38 Presbyterian churches in SG?

The P already knew the no. of church members that will be applying to the school in March/April. I believe there are around 30 or more. This no. should not vary much in the last few years. It's very obvious then that the supply cannot meet demand and the PVs > 2km are at high risk.

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Scary:

Trapwithin:

[quote=\"Scary\"]Or the school purposely did that to show it's popularity?

Don't think so, that's why they turn down a lot of PV because they know there will be palces taken up by the church members. I read somewhere in this thread that the P always want to ensure all PV gets in, but sometime it kind of hard to predict.

Last yr 20+ pvs and a couple of them did not get in. This yr increase no. of PVs and yet reduce class. Don't see the logic. Actually their PVs no. kind of high this yr. It's comparable to some top schools without church affiliation.

If I am the P, I will use last yr's stats less 15 due to reduction in class no., i.e. 29 vacancies at phase 2B. If take in 33 PVs, definitely many will not be able to get in. Even if use 44 vacancies and take in 33 PVs, how can church members and GRL be only 11 when there are 38 Presbyterian churches in SG?[/quote]Scary, you got the fig wrongly. Last year should have 30+ PVs...Ask bro markfch...

Actually, the P already reduced the PVs for this intake...but somehow some rejected parents appealed and was asked to do 100hrs by the school. Maybe the school gave them the 100 hrs hoping that they would back out but they accepted willingly. Now some couldn't get in and started throwing mug at the school...

P2B is just a game and one must accept the result sportingly...if not, don't be in the game....

[Scary]

php:

Scary:

[quote=\"Trapwithin\"]

Don't think so, that's why they turn down a lot of PV because they know there will be palces taken up by the church members. I read somewhere in this thread that the P always want to ensure all PV gets in, but sometime it kind of hard to predict.

Last yr 20+ pvs and a couple of them did not get in. This yr increase no. of PVs and yet reduce class. Don't see the logic. Actually their PVs no. kind of high this yr. It's comparable to some top schools without church affiliation.

If I am the P, I will use last yr's stats less 15 due to reduction in class no., i.e. 29 vacancies at phase 2B. If take in 33 PVs, definitely many will not be able to get in. Even if use 44 vacancies and take in 33 PVs, how can church members and GRL be only 11 when there are 38 Presbyterian churches in SG?

Scary, you got the fig wrongly. Last year should have 30+ PVs...Ask bro markfch...

Actually, the P already reduced the PVs for this intake...but somehow some rejected parents appealed and was asked to do 100hrs by the school. Maybe the school gave them the 100 hrs hoping that they would back out but they accepted willingly. Now some couldn't get in and started throwing mug at the school...

P2B is just a game and one must accept the result sportingly...if not, don't be in the game....[/quote]
Yes, most parents will not take it lying down. Thus, the article in Zaobao. This is not referring to PH only. A few other schools are badly affected too.

Oh yes, a few parents PV for 2 schools. Think MOE should come up with a database to check this.

Though I am not affected by this cos I never PV in any, I am aware of the heart wrenching balloting that these parents had to go through after putting in their precious hrs. The balloting is not for the weak hearted. Will be good if fewer parents need to go through it as some may even need to go through it 2X.

[markfch]

Scary:

Yes, most parents will not take it lying down. Thus, the article in Zaobao.

Since when did P2B become a guaranteed phase? :scratchhead:

[Scary]

markfch:

Scary:

Yes, most parents will not take it lying down. Thus, the article in Zaobao.

Since when did P2B become a guaranteed phase? :scratchhead:

I also thought all along not guaranteed. A PH PV may have called the reporter to blow up the issue and hope that the school can be more opened and do something about it? Regardless what it is, I still hope that any parent will not need to go through balloting 2X. (The high chance of going through 1X already causes sleepless nights for me. Going through 2X I may end up in IMH.:()

[Happy Mama]

Does anyone have a copy of the Zaobao? What does it say? Thanks.

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Happy Mama:

Does anyone have a copy of the Zaobao? What does it say? Thanks.

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp110720_007.shtml

[Happy Mama]

php:

Happy Mama:

Does anyone have a copy of the Zaobao? What does it say? Thanks.

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp110720_007.shtml

Thanks, php.

[markfch]

Scary:

I also thought all along not guaranteed. A PH PV may have called the reporter to blow up the issue. Regardless what it is, I still hope that any parent will not need to go through balloting 2X.

My colleague explained to me in detail what she went thru for balloting last fri. There were shouts of jubilation, cries of anguish, bouts of bewilderment, hugs of solidarity, all happening within the compressed time of less than 10 min. Unless one is masochistic, I believe no one would want to live thru that kind of emotional torture a second time.

However having said that, we must all admit that we went in with our eyes opened. The registration rules were spelled out upfront, P2B is never guaranteed.

If we cannot stand the stress of losing out, then by all means don't participate in balloting. At least in this part of the island, I can say that we stand a high chance of enrolling our kids into a good sch like BTPS without any need for balloting. So we cannot say that we were forced to ballot. Is that is fair statement?

To cut a long story short, we're not insensitive to the stress of balloting. Personally I do wish that people can understand that in balloting, there'll be 'winners' and 'losers'; and be willing to accept whatever outcome of their choice gracefully.

Btw, I didn't read the newspaper article because my chinese CMI. What I posted here is just a general statement.

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markfch:

Scary:

I also thought all along not guaranteed. A PH PV may have called the reporter to blow up the issue. Regardless what it is, I still hope that any parent will not need to go through balloting 2X.

My colleague explained to me in detail what she went thru for balloting last fri. There were shouts of jubilation, cries of anguish, bouts of bewilderment, hugs of solidarity, all happening within the compressed time of less than 10 min. Unless one is masochistic, I believe no one would want to live thru that kind of emotional torture a second time.

However having said that, we must all admit that we went in with our eyes opened. The registration rules were spelled out upfront, P2B is never guaranteed.

If we cannot stand the stress of losing out, then by all means don't participate in balloting. At least in this part of the island, I can say that we stand a high chance of enrolling our kids into a good sch like BTPS without any need for balloting. So we cannot say that we were forced to ballot. Is that is fair statement?

To cut a long story short, we're not insensitive to the stress of balloting. Personally I do wish that people can understand that in balloting, there'll be 'winners' and 'losers'; and be willing to accept whatever outcome of their choice gracefully.

the question is why she complained about the 100 hrs she needed to fulfill when she already got a place in PH without balloting....if you read from the report, she already moved to within 1km of PH....so why complain now? she can don't accept the offer when the school asked her to do....