Vulgar words

[Luvkid]

insider:

........PS: Not encouraging kids to use vulgar words but not to be too alarmed when they do so (qualify: they must be old enough to know when to use and when not to use such as never use it in front my uncles/aunties/mum!!!). Their knowledge of vulgar words will 'improve' when they reach secondary school. Even my daughter in elite school knows about them and will come back to ask me when people say this means what and say that means what and I will explain (she said don't know Hokkien a bit on the losing end as even kena scolded also don't know people scolding what...). Personally I am fine with my older kids spouting vulgar words or swearing occasionally coz I find it 'human' leh...

Hey Insider,

U r the \"open\" one. I dun think i can accept ds1 in near future will use vuglar on me, cos i dun use any on them. I dun know whether is right or wrong to indirectly criticise my mil infront of family members, incl both ds. The incident happened when mil offered a cup of tea to dh, dh just placed on coffee table, mil \"instructed\" to put in certain position, dh just replied \"chin chye lah\" MIL reponsed with **! DS1 \"caught\" ah ma for scolding \"bad\" word. I happily took the chance reacted,\" So u see, ah ma using \"bad\" words, there goes to her son, that's yr papa. And here yr mummy dun use \"bad' words, will u just follow me??\" Ds1 replied,\" I won't lah!\"At that incident, my Brother in law was there too.

Think i am the kiasi kind lah, dun use any vuglar during my primary & secondary school days. Guess maybe friends i mixed with dun use \"them\", we were not the REAL studious one though. Know \"them\" well from father, but can't bring myself to scold any, find it disgusting. Ever commented my father rotten mouth with rotten words, ended with a \"knock\" on my head

[kaydenbrown]

I think swear words and cursing is very normal stuff for kids growing up. They just need to know when to draw a line to it.


Even when you go to higher social circles of professors, doctors, directors etc which I usually hang out with, you still hear a lot of that. But in formal cases, you certainly cannot start spouting all that.

[tony]

insider:

Then I told her, \"Mummy allows you to use bad words if you have to.\" Then she blurted out, \"He is really fxxx-up!\" Then we both laughed and I said, \"Ya, really fxxx-up!\"

I grew up as a prim convent schoolgirl where, if I even think of a bad word, would go red in the face. I think the worst I ever got up to was \"bloody hell!\".

When I went to college, it became quite normal to use the fXXX word and I enjoyed my freedom so much, I probably over-said it. :oops: There is a lot of truth to words opening up a well of emotion that we otherwise would have had not access to. Like in George Orwell's 1984, if they banned the word, then you won't have the related emotion. Conversely if you use a word, a different set of emotions will spring forth.

I find from my own life that the appropriate use of vulgar words (context, with friends etc) is more critical rather than sweeping it under the carpet. Just like ourselves, our kids will learn to use them whether we like it or not. Better to explain to them about when and where they can use it so we don't get bombarded.

[amkian]

ChiefKiasu:

Sorry... this is a little off-topic, but it reminds me of a game show on radio during the early 90s, where they get kids to call in and answer questions for prizes. I can't remember the name of the show... but here's a version of what allegedly happened:


DJ: OK... we are going to give you the name of an animal, and you tell us what is the opposite sex of that animal.
Boy: OK.
DJ: What's the male of a cow?
Boy: BULL!
DJ: Correct! Next... what's the female of a cock?
Boy: Err....
DJ: Come on... I'm sure you know the answer.
Boy: I... I cannot say...
DJ: Sure you can. Just say it and you'll get the prize!
Boy: \"七百\"
DJ: ... complete silence for precious radio seconds...

Heard the show was cancelled soon after.

I'm sorry for being out of topic too but...this is really classic! Can't believe it happened in rl singapore XD

Poor DJ though... bet he got the whack of it.

[Little M]

My hubby n I discourages any swear words.


The other day, I was so angry with my 2 kids (7 n 5 yr olds) that I told them to "shut-up". After that, the kids were whispering to each other "oh, mommy said the "s" word."

[ChiefKiasu]

Little M:

My hubby n I discourages any swear words.


The other day, I was so angry with my 2 kids (7 n 5 yr olds) that I told them to \"shut-up\". After that, the kids were whispering to each other \"oh, mommy said the \"s\" word.\"

My 4yo daughter is in that mode now. I have to be very careful with what I say these days, to avoid her \"Orrr Horrr... daddy say bad words\". :oops:

[Funz]

Driving during peak hours usually brings the ‘best’ out of DH.


And somehow kids radar seem to be constantly tuned in for these occasional slip ups of adults.

DH lost his cool when the driver in front slammed on his brake suddenly to cut to the left and went

DH : Bloody ffff (at this point I stared at him and he stopped)
DD : wat daddy wat? Bloody wat? (up until this point the 2 of them were spacing out)
DH : uhhh… failure
DD : huh??!?
DH : Well, that guy in front almost caused an accident. So I think he failed his driving test. That’s why I am him a failure.
DD : orrhhhh. But is he hurt?
DH : huh??
DD : you say he bloody mah
DS : yah, we call ambulance to save him, then we call police to catch him cos he naughty almost make daddy bang his car!

To my kids, words like stupid, die, disgusting are considered bad words. And if anyone were to use them, they will go orrrhorr, you say bad word. Ahhh… the innocence of a preschooler. I will enjoy it now, for soon, I will have to deal with the real serious stuff.

[mckenzy]

i feel that vulgarities only come out when we cannot express ourselves (usually at extreme emotional moments) properly with the right grammer and vocabulary.


Use of vulgarities reflect poorly on this ability. I’m was no goodie two shoes myself when i was in primary school… but over the years i managed to wean-off this ‘simplistic’ (for want of a better term) way of expression and move on to express myself in a more ‘proper’ way.

In alot of cases, moving away from vulgarities means keeping quiet and holding the tongue. The tongue is a powerful organ that can speak life and also speak ill… what comes out of our mouth shows what is within… food for thought…

[sashimi]

On this topic, I’m pretty much given in to the times. Fk is now common language, everyone uses it. I feel it no longer has the impact it did 10-15 years ago.


So I have decided not to make a fuss over it. I expect to hear it from my DD’s mouth within the next 10 years.

My issue mainly is with these foolish boys in the streets/buses/etc who use it as an adjective for every 5th word in every sentence. Obviously they think it’s cool to swear, unaware of the public fools they make themselves out to be.

I’m not usually offended by the use of vulgarities, in general, if used in appropriate situations. For example, the other day I was walking out from under a HDB block and a bloody FKING cigarette butt hit my heaD!! Some Fking idiot had thrown it out his Fking flat! I was so pissed I swore right in front of my DD, who was with me. Imagine if it struck her instead!!

She paid no notice to the word anyway. I’m sure she’ll pick it up sooner or later, and I prefer not to make a fuss out of it.

It’s quite unlike my attitude towards smoking - THAT offends me to the core. And yet, there are tons of smokers (and I’m pretty sure a signifcant no. of you here smoke) everywhere whose 2nd-hand smoke and littering habits are, I find, far more vulgar than any cuss word.

Which is worse? It’s all relative isn’t it.

[CuttleFish31]

Hi, as a parent for over 10 years now, I think that I am more than qualified to say a few words on this.


Vulgar words are commonplace in today’s society and complete censorship of these words is almost impossible. Plus, censorship is a hindrance to education.

By the way, let me introduce the many uses of the ‘F’ word in today’s modern society. Out of all these words that begin with the letter ‘f’, FCK is the only word that is commonly referred to the F word. It is the one magical word. Just by its sound it can describe pain, pleasure and love. FCK as with most words in the English language, is derived from German. ‘Frichen’ which means ‘to strike’. In English, Fck falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as a transitive verb in the case such as "John Fcked Shirley" and also as an intransitive verb, "Shirley Fcks". Its meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective; "John’s doing all the Fcking work", as part of an adverb, "Shirley talks too Fcking much", an adverb enhancing an adjective, "Shirley is Fcking beautiful", as a noun, "I don’t give a Fck", as part of a word, "absofckinglutely" or "infckingcredible". In the human language, there aren’t many words with the versatility of the word Fck as such in these examples describing situations such as fraud, "I got fcked at the used car lot", dismay, "Ah! Fck it!", trouble, "I guess I’m really fcked now", aggression, "Don’t fck with me buddy", difficulty, "I don’t understand this fcking question", inquiry, "Who the fck was that?". I’m sure we can think of many more examples. With all these multipurpose applications, how can anyone be offended when someone uses the word "F*ck".