Opinions on Gifted Education Programme (GEP)

[jtoh]

BeContented:

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My English not very good lah, wondering should I continue to post comments and see if people can understand my comments or should I just lurk and read comments from others :scared:

Your English is fine. Do continue posting.

[jtoh]

Mdm Koh:

I think the selection tests are inadequate. They test mainly English and Maths. What about students who are good at only of the subjects? What about students who are gifted in other subjects like science? Even Thomas Edison was bad at Maths!

It probably has to do with how these IQ-type questions are conducted, which are usually to test language ability, logic and math. From there they can gauge a child's learning ability and potential. It's not so much to test specific subject ability.

[atutor2001]

BeContented:

Ideally, all kids should be helped - weak, normal, high ability, GEP. Just that with limited resources, people will tend to 'fight' over them & it's natural for each to want more resources for own kids' benefit. I do look forward to better distribution if possible, something that will include all groups & not deprive anyone. :love:

Your post jotted me out of the perception that it is an acceptable norm for GEP class to be small. What about those weak students? Shouldn't their class size be small too? Aren't they the ones that need help more than the GEP?


Probably there is consideration on \"returns\" from resources deplored and whether if they are deserving of such help - especially when most of the so-called \"weak\" students are actually self-inflicted - i.e. attitude problem.

[iFirefly]

BeContented:

naggo-nitemare:

[quote=\"WeiHan\"]So in fact GEP is a better education which we should aim to give to more kids or even all kids and not scrap it.

There is a reason why gep is a pullout program. Already numerous people are complaining abt coping with the current primary sch coursework. Do we want to accelerate ALL kids? Obviously, some are suited for gep while most are not. PL don't view a child as being deprived if he isn't in gep. Those in the mainstream has the same opportunities in other moe-run programs and competitions eg primary math masterclass, debate competitions and science quizzes. All who can prove his potential n innate talent will not be deprived.

I dun have any kid in GEP but I do support the programme. Reason is simple ..... there ARE really really kids who are a lot more advanced and gifted (and I mean the real genuine ones...not those drilled/prepared). I
know of 2 GEP kids and seriously, the syllabus/work they do.....challenging but interesting. It really stretches them. Even tho my 2 kids considered high-ability, I must tell you....they are nowhere near. While previously I had hoped my kids would get in GEP, I'm now glad.....really really glad my kids didn't. I dun think my kids and myself can cope. So seriously, offering to ALL students will kill cos' most schools have pupils with varying abilities, even mainstream work can be challenging to some. While we call for more resources to help the bulk esp. the poorer ones, let's not take away from the GEP group as it will help them too.[/quote] :goodpost: Be-contented!!! You write so much better than me, so please continue to post, then I can 'good post' all your posts and don't have to write, hee hee...

[Mdm Koh]

jtoh:

Mdm Koh:

I think the selection tests are inadequate. They test mainly English and Maths. What about students who are good at only of the subjects? What about students who are gifted in other subjects like science? Even Thomas Edison was bad at Maths!

It probably has to do with how these IQ-type questions are conducted, which are usually to test language ability, logic and math. From there they can gauge a child's learning ability and potential. It's not so much to test specific subject ability.

Thanks for explaining!

Although I can see the merits of the GEP, I think MOE should still review it from time to time, especially now that enrichment centres are claiming that they can prepare their students for the selection tests.

[KSP]

mother3:

What is there to be jealous! GEP is very great meh ? If you

Want your kid go GEP ... Go la ....
Not necessary GEPpers got the best results in psle , A level ....
Who gain most ? The child ? The parents ? The tuition/ enrichment centre .
At age of 10..,, not plAying but assignments and tests .....
No wonder more and more children are seeking medical attention in
IMH ....
I believed that even MOE strap gEP ... It will some form of
Streaming .... And what you call elite ....
Btw I know of many parents and myself do not wish to enrol my
My son to enrol into gep though qualified ... To give them a healthy less stressful
Learning environment . And btw it is the parents who help / do the child projects and assignments .

i agreed to your last statement

[KSP]

verykiasu2010:

[quote]Singapore need to scrap Gifted Education Programme - NCMP


by NCMP Yee Jenn Jong


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I like MOE to consider scrapping centralised primary school GEP too.

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Schools can be supported by the GE Branch with learning resources distributed to them for use, or schools may prepare their own content. Selected teachers in all schools can be trained on how to guide students with stronger learning abilities.

We can spread accelerated learning across many schools. Parents not need transfer their child out to a gifted school at 9 years old. MOE wants to convince parents that every school is a good school. Separating gifted students into special schools undermines this message.

this guy is self contradicting

proposing to scrap GEP and want to use GE Branch to distribute learning resources .....

what is he trying to say ?[/quote]maybe he wants to scrap GEP and then let all students expose to GE learning resources... i'm worried more students will visit IMH if this really happpens.....

[jtoh]

KSP:

mother3:

color=#BF0000]And btw it is the parents who help / do the child projects and assignments[/color] .

i agreed to your last statement

Let's not generalize here, shall we? Not all parents help their children with their projects and assignments. There are some, probably the more kiasu parents. And possibly those who feel their kids need help in GEP.

I for one never helped my kid with her GEP homework, projects and assignments. I let her tackle everything on her own and she came out none the worse for it. I figured if she was going to reap the benefits of the programme it was best that she experience everything herself. She may not have topped PSLE nor GEP but she is doing rather well in secondary school now, having embraced the learning journey and its long term benefits.

[KSP]

jtoh:

KSP:

[quote=\"mother3\"]color=#BF0000]And btw it is the parents who help / do the child projects and assignments[/color] .

i agreed to your last statement

Let's not generalize here, shall we? Not all parents help their children with their projects and assignments. There are some, probably the more kiasu parents. And possibly those who feel their kids need help in GEP.

I for one never helped my kid with her GEP homework, projects and assignments. I let her tackle everything on her own and she came out none the worse for it. I figured if she was going to reap the benefits of the programme it was best that she experience everything herself. She may not have topped PSLE nor GEP but she is doing rather well in secondary school now, having embraced the learning journey and its long term benefits.[/quote]Maybe the teachers will know best with all the color laser printed and laminated work from a 10-12 yo kid.

[jtoh]

KSP:

Maybe the teachers will know best with all the color laser printed and laminated work from a 10-12 yo kid.

Content is far more important than colour laser prints and lamination which form the presentation. Anyway why wouldn't a 10-12 year old be capable of printing and laminating their own work? Just because a child hands up a well-produced project doesn't mean he didn't do it on his own.