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    S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting

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    • L Offline
      lainm
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      pepper spice:
      Wen1982, Lainm, Miaor, I mean no malice but :?


      Anyway, I do indeed see that cockroaches are pah buay si but sorry, I have never seen a rat at my home in Singapore so I do not know whether you can say that it is \"as intelligent as a rat\" because I do not know the IQ level of rats. Of course I also know that 己所不欲,勿施于人,but I think I did not start a name-calling session. I merely say that cockroaches are indeed resilient. Once again, :?
      But lastly, I do want to reiterate that I want Singapore policies to be Singaporeans-First policies.
      You are so welcome to express freely your opinions. In fact, I also agree SGns are to be considered first here, it's rather a much better thing to see every Singaporean feeling happy than frustrated. But please do think twice before you want to qualify other ppl who may have different thinking than yours.
      Btw, about rats, I don't have any raised home but I can confirm you that they are creatures most of time more intelligent than other animals of the same size, or classified as the same biological family. For cockroach, since I don't have seen any of them at my home, though they did give me bad impression through other channels, I apologize for having misunderstood your purpose. Now through your clarifications I think I can share your point of view, and I'm rather happy to join you in appreciating the qualities, such as resilience, this small nature has. Hopefully we will all learn something from them.

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        pepper spice
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        lainm:
        But please do think twice before you want to qualify other ppl who may have different thinking than yours.

        Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by that.
        However, all these started because I felt that a forumer had been rather rudely chastised for merely saying the prcs are resilient.
        I will not be posting any more comments here cos I think it is OT.
        Also, thanks for your lesson on rats.

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          Miaor
          last edited by

          lainm:
          pepper spice:

          Wen1982, Lainm, Miaor, I mean no malice but :?


          Anyway, I do indeed see that cockroaches are pah buay si but sorry, I have never seen a rat at my home in Singapore so I do not know whether you can say that it is \"as intelligent as a rat\" because I do not know the IQ level of rats. Of course I also know that 己所不欲,勿施于人,but I think I did not start a name-calling session. I merely say that cockroaches are indeed resilient. Once again, :?
          But lastly, I do want to reiterate that I want Singapore policies to be Singaporeans-First policies.

          You are so welcome to express freely your opinions. In fact, I also agree SGns are to be considered first here, it's rather a much better thing to see every Singaporean feeling happy than frustrated. But please do think twice before you want to qualify other ppl who may have different thinking than yours.
          Btw, about rats, I don't have any raised home but I can confirm you that they are creatures most of time more intelligent than other animals of the same size, or classified as the same biological family. For cockroach, since I don't have seen any of them at my home, though they did give me bad impression through other channels, I apologize for having misunderstood your purpose. Now through your clarifications I think I can share your point of view, and I'm rather happy to join you in appreciating the qualities, such as resilience, this small nature has. Hopefully we will all learn something from them.

          Kicking out PR from balloting may have very little help to relieve SG-rean's frustration on P1 registration if it's not to increase. I am really looking forward to the results of P1 registration this year. As a matter of effects, PRs, especially we PRC PRs taking their kids' education as one of their highest priorities in their life (guess it's kinda nature for Chinese parents all over the world), will be deeply hurt in terms of the confidence to live or eventually integrate as a SC, no matter they are real talent or not.

          When SG-reans are accusing PRs using SG as a step stone, have you ever wondered why? Why does SG govt have to use your tax to pay higher salary to hire PRs? Why don't just invest the money to better education and make SG-reans more talent?
          Think twice about the reason why so many SG kids are excluded from those branded primarys.
          Think twice why those schools are so popular.
          Think twice why SG kids have to suffer from the rigorous primary education.
          IMHO, the policy is rather a politic move than something improving SG education system. 😓

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            Edureach
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            Chenonceau:
            Edureach:

            Luck has got nothing to do with Jim Roger's case. Here's a man who's highly qualified and intelligent. A ppp grad from Oxford university, he's a famed long term investor.


            This is what we can all call real talent! It's a lost for us if he had chosen another country.

            Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... I'm not sure we gained him leh. 🦆 He is still not SC. Neither are his kids. When I read his interview a few years back, it was quite clear that Singapore is a stepping stone to China. His kids are here to learn Chinese... and understand Asia. It is people like this who enjoy all and then leave.

            We have not gained. We've lost. Prolly.


            I shall give u examples why we are ganing:

            1 Use him as an example why our country is a preferred place of residence for vip talents.
            2. Opp for him to park some of his wealth in our banking system.His family will be here for many more yrs thus creating spill over effect and room for creating jobs.
            3.His family will be here for many more yrs so Singpore has alot of opportunities for him to express his views on critical areas pertaining to our focus in positioning our state as a regional financial power hse.
            4. On personal financial investment, we can also hve more opportunities for him to express his views on products such as stocks, currency and commodities. To hve an annual luch date with Warren Buffet, one needs to put in a bid of more than S$300,000.
            5. It creates opportunities to add financial knowhow to staff and parents of nyp who get to meet him. Hence ther's a knowledge transfer for those fortunate ones.
            6. It puts our tiny nation on the world map and allow us to punch above our weight.
            7. Its a blessings to our nation as such can expect more blessings to come.

            All in all, no loss but alot to gain otherwise his place may be filled by a lesser talent.

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              phtthp
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              perhaps you wish to elaborate on the reasons, after "Think twice."

              i am not too clear, curious to know the answers.

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                Chenonceau
                last edited by

                Miaor:

                When SG-reans are accusing PRs using SG as a step stone, have you ever wondered why?
                (1) Why does SG govt have to use your tax to pay higher salary to hire PRs?
                (2) Why don't just invest the money to better education and make SG-reans more talent?
                (3) Think twice about the reason why so many SG kids are excluded from those branded primarys.
                (4) Why are those schools are so popular.
                (5) Why do SG kids have to suffer from the rigorous primary education.

                IMHO, the policy is rather a politic move than something improving SG education system. 😓
                These are great questions. I am curious to know what your answers are.

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                  absolut_vodka
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                  I’m sorry but I’m inclined to think that the many of PRs are in fact paid lower than the SC for the same job(s) or taking up jobs that SC are shunning.


                  If you (PRC) think you are superior to us, then why not stay in your own country and contribute to your economy? Is it because you are really so talented and sought after or because you can’t even get a decent job with a decent wage in your own country? No doubt there will be some talented ones but I am pretty sure not ALL of you are talented and sought after, if not for the cheaper price tag.

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                    caroline3sg
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                    To those who want to know answers to miaor’s questions.


                    image in the international / global arena & money $$$ lor.

                    S’pore wants to be in the top list in terms of wealthy nation, education ranking, sports arena etc. Last time nobody knows where is S’pore (part of China or M’sia). Govt wants the world to know that her Ministers are of great calibre / clean & honest that can bring S’pore to world class in 46 years (young country).

                    Think along DBS & ComfortDelgro’s expansion in China in exchange for their people’s movement to S’pore (under S’pore-China FTA I guess). Scholarships is name in disguise. The business pie / cake in China is very big. How much is the scholarships as compared to the earnings of DBS & Comfort?

                    PRC’s Maths & Chinese standard much much higher than S’porean students. They can easily beat us in national exams.

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      I have to respectfully disagree. But this isn't an issue important to me so I won't post anymore after this post. No offence to you. I just don't agree.

                      Edureach:
                      1 Use him as an example why our country is a preferred place of residence for vip talents.
                      My mom used to tell me that it doesn't matter whether a guest of our home is rich/poor... smart/stupid... we owe them the same hospitality (but not the same family privileges). The rich and smart fellow may have a lot of wealth but he is still a guest and not family. When push comes to shove, he isn't going to share his wealth with us. When our family is down and out, he has no obligation to help.
                      Edureach:
                      3.His family will be here for many more yrs so Singpore has alot of opportunities for him to express his views on critical areas pertaining to our focus in positioning our state as a regional financial power hse.
                      Just because his kid goes to NYPS, and he lives here... he gives free consultancy to the Singapore government and to Singaporeans? Why would he do that? If not, we can easily fly in consultants for this express purpose.

                      I used to have an American tenant. He's still living here and working here. I didn't see him contribute more than what he was paid for. The last I heard, he is arranging himself a spot in Thailand to retire to. Singapore is a great place to make money.
                      Edureach:
                      2. Opp for him to park some of his wealth in our banking system.His family will be here for many more yrs thus creating spill over effect and room for creating jobs.
                      People like him don't park wealth in the country he lives in. They park wealth where the returns are greatest. He moved his whole business operations here? He is employing people here then? Or are his bases in China and USA?
                      Edureach:
                      4. On personal financial investment, we can also hve more opportunities for him to express his views on products such as stocks, currency and commodities. To hve an annual luch date with Warren Buffet, one needs to put in a bid of more than S$300,000.
                      He does that? He provides free workshops to poor people in Singapore to help them become financially independent?
                      Edureach:
                      5. It creates opportunities to add financial knowhow to staff and parents of nyp who get to meet him. Hence ther's a knowledge transfer for those fortunate ones.
                      Seriously? He'll go by to pick his kid from school and at the same time take the opportunity to educate NYPS parents? This sounds like wishful thinking to me.
                      Edureach:
                      6. It puts our tiny nation on the world map and allow us to punch above our weight.
                      Being a stepping stone is punching above our weight? If this is what the Singapore govt thinks then if I were Miaor (the PRC PR who posted just some posts earlier), I would laugh my head off because Miaor has clearly hinted that if others consider us a stepping stone, it is because in some way, we are not good enough to be a Home.

                      Come on... family is family... Singaporean is Singaporean... guest is guest. I would never give over my heritage to someone else's GEP son just because my own son is not GEP, and then be proud that I have attracted someone else's son to my side.

                      Smart or stupid - my son is still my son.
                      GEP notwithstanding - the other boy is still someone else's son and his loyalties lay elsewhere... and I share no part in his reflected glory... and I should not claim that I share that reflected glory.
                      Edureach:
                      7. Its a blessings to our nation as such can expect more blessings to come.
                      A list of wishful blessings are not really blessings.

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        caroline3sg:

                        PRC's Maths & Chinese standard much much higher than S'porean students. They can easily beat us in national exams.
                        The last time I spoke to someone in China, she told me that she was thankful that the schools teach what they test. Their standards are high, yes. But their teachers can cope.

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