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    S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting

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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      perhaps you wish to elaborate on the reasons, after "Think twice."

      i am not too clear, curious to know the answers.

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        Chenonceau
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        Miaor:

        When SG-reans are accusing PRs using SG as a step stone, have you ever wondered why?
        (1) Why does SG govt have to use your tax to pay higher salary to hire PRs?
        (2) Why don't just invest the money to better education and make SG-reans more talent?
        (3) Think twice about the reason why so many SG kids are excluded from those branded primarys.
        (4) Why are those schools are so popular.
        (5) Why do SG kids have to suffer from the rigorous primary education.

        IMHO, the policy is rather a politic move than something improving SG education system. 😓
        These are great questions. I am curious to know what your answers are.

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          absolut_vodka
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          I’m sorry but I’m inclined to think that the many of PRs are in fact paid lower than the SC for the same job(s) or taking up jobs that SC are shunning.


          If you (PRC) think you are superior to us, then why not stay in your own country and contribute to your economy? Is it because you are really so talented and sought after or because you can’t even get a decent job with a decent wage in your own country? No doubt there will be some talented ones but I am pretty sure not ALL of you are talented and sought after, if not for the cheaper price tag.

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            caroline3sg
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            To those who want to know answers to miaor’s questions.


            image in the international / global arena & money $$$ lor.

            S’pore wants to be in the top list in terms of wealthy nation, education ranking, sports arena etc. Last time nobody knows where is S’pore (part of China or M’sia). Govt wants the world to know that her Ministers are of great calibre / clean & honest that can bring S’pore to world class in 46 years (young country).

            Think along DBS & ComfortDelgro’s expansion in China in exchange for their people’s movement to S’pore (under S’pore-China FTA I guess). Scholarships is name in disguise. The business pie / cake in China is very big. How much is the scholarships as compared to the earnings of DBS & Comfort?

            PRC’s Maths & Chinese standard much much higher than S’porean students. They can easily beat us in national exams.

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              Chenonceau
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              I have to respectfully disagree. But this isn't an issue important to me so I won't post anymore after this post. No offence to you. I just don't agree.

              Edureach:
              1 Use him as an example why our country is a preferred place of residence for vip talents.
              My mom used to tell me that it doesn't matter whether a guest of our home is rich/poor... smart/stupid... we owe them the same hospitality (but not the same family privileges). The rich and smart fellow may have a lot of wealth but he is still a guest and not family. When push comes to shove, he isn't going to share his wealth with us. When our family is down and out, he has no obligation to help.
              Edureach:
              3.His family will be here for many more yrs so Singpore has alot of opportunities for him to express his views on critical areas pertaining to our focus in positioning our state as a regional financial power hse.
              Just because his kid goes to NYPS, and he lives here... he gives free consultancy to the Singapore government and to Singaporeans? Why would he do that? If not, we can easily fly in consultants for this express purpose.

              I used to have an American tenant. He's still living here and working here. I didn't see him contribute more than what he was paid for. The last I heard, he is arranging himself a spot in Thailand to retire to. Singapore is a great place to make money.
              Edureach:
              2. Opp for him to park some of his wealth in our banking system.His family will be here for many more yrs thus creating spill over effect and room for creating jobs.
              People like him don't park wealth in the country he lives in. They park wealth where the returns are greatest. He moved his whole business operations here? He is employing people here then? Or are his bases in China and USA?
              Edureach:
              4. On personal financial investment, we can also hve more opportunities for him to express his views on products such as stocks, currency and commodities. To hve an annual luch date with Warren Buffet, one needs to put in a bid of more than S$300,000.
              He does that? He provides free workshops to poor people in Singapore to help them become financially independent?
              Edureach:
              5. It creates opportunities to add financial knowhow to staff and parents of nyp who get to meet him. Hence ther's a knowledge transfer for those fortunate ones.
              Seriously? He'll go by to pick his kid from school and at the same time take the opportunity to educate NYPS parents? This sounds like wishful thinking to me.
              Edureach:
              6. It puts our tiny nation on the world map and allow us to punch above our weight.
              Being a stepping stone is punching above our weight? If this is what the Singapore govt thinks then if I were Miaor (the PRC PR who posted just some posts earlier), I would laugh my head off because Miaor has clearly hinted that if others consider us a stepping stone, it is because in some way, we are not good enough to be a Home.

              Come on... family is family... Singaporean is Singaporean... guest is guest. I would never give over my heritage to someone else's GEP son just because my own son is not GEP, and then be proud that I have attracted someone else's son to my side.

              Smart or stupid - my son is still my son.
              GEP notwithstanding - the other boy is still someone else's son and his loyalties lay elsewhere... and I share no part in his reflected glory... and I should not claim that I share that reflected glory.
              Edureach:
              7. Its a blessings to our nation as such can expect more blessings to come.
              A list of wishful blessings are not really blessings.

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                Chenonceau
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                caroline3sg:

                PRC's Maths & Chinese standard much much higher than S'porean students. They can easily beat us in national exams.
                The last time I spoke to someone in China, she told me that she was thankful that the schools teach what they test. Their standards are high, yes. But their teachers can cope.

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                  Freesia
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                  Yes, my daughter chinese tutor also mentioned that the way the china school teach maths is more interesting and holistic than ours.

                  If you look at their school chinese textbook; it is so interesting.
                  They read poems and from there learn new words and phrases.
                  It is a far cry from our school’s chinese textbook.

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                    Edureach
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                    Chenonceau


                    For a nation to be regarded as a country that’s progressive, dynamic and happening, it needs star talents and must be of diverse backgrounds. Hence, financial players, scientist, artistes, sports personnel etc.

                    The more well-known the better as it positions Singapore as a dynamic and happening place that will attracts even more to come. I am talking about star talents, the internationally known not just ordinary unknowns which are plenty. Top talents are mobile, how often we do get people like Jim Roger, Jacky Chan and Jet Li to be here? We know Jacky had contributed part of his fortune to NTU. As to how much their money is parked here statistics will always be unavailable.

                    Just for a while imagine our ministers making appointments to call upon their counterparts in the first world. The more prosperous we are, the more our leaders will be received with open arms. International relations are operate on such basis as we know. For a country to be rich is always look upon by others. Imagine u walk into a LV shop at T, the moment you hve committed to buy one top of the range bags and considering others, you will be treated with respect and adoration. Pri 2 kids now learn that money talks. On this material planet, money is the currency of international relations. Go and see how many long established unis willing to compromise on their entry requirements to recruit foreign students. You know well.

                    I must add money does not bring happiness but is good to have alot so that we can be a blessing to those in need.

                    I for one will not apologise for being a good trader and investor.

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      Freesia:
                      Yes, my daughter chinese tutor also mentioned that the way the china school teach maths is more interesting and holistic than ours.

                      If you look at their school chinese textbook; it is so interesting.
                      They read poems and from there learn new words and phrases.
                      It is a far cry from our school's chinese textbook.
                      So now we know why the PRCs consider us a stepping stone. Miaor is right. Education is important to Chinese parents the world over. If they think that the majority of schools punch below their weight (as compared to what they they have in China) why entrust to this country the future of their offspring... and therefore call Singapore home?

                      If we don't get emotional about what Miaor is saying, it is clear that she has in a few questions demonstrated sharp and incisive thinking. Too bad if it is ouch for us.

                      We are a stepping stone and it is OUR fault because we only have a few good schools (that the PRC parents want to get into or else there is little reason to stay). The quality of our schools follow the normal distribution curve because MOE cannot control its schools... and therefore natural randomness prevails.

                      See Miaor's post below. If so many consider us a stepping stone, then we CANNOT be punching above our weight and it is time to face that bravely and do something about it. Stop deluding ourselves.
                      Miaor:
                      When SG-reans are accusing PRs using SG as a step stone, have you ever wondered why?
                      (1) Why does SG govt have to use your tax to pay higher salary to hire PRs?
                      (2) Why don't just invest the money to better education and make SG-reans more talent?
                      (3) Think twice about the reason why so many SG kids are excluded from those branded primarys.
                      (4) Why are those schools are so popular.
                      (5) Why do SG kids have to suffer from the rigorous primary education.

                      IMHO, the policy is rather a politic move than something improving SG education system. 😓

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        Edureach:
                        Chenonceau


                        For a nation to be regarded as a country that's progressive, dynamic and happening, it needs star talents and must be of diverse backgrounds. Hence, financial players, scientist, artistes, sports personnel etc.

                        The more well-known the better as it positions Singapore as a dynamic and happening place that will attracts even more to come. I am talking about star talents, the internationally known not just ordinary unknowns which are plenty. Top talents are mobile, how often we do get people like Jim Roger, Jacky Chan and Jet Li to be here? We know Jacky had contributed part of his fortune to NTU. As to how much their money is parked here statistics will always be unavailable.

                        Just for a while imagine our ministers making appointments to call upon their counterparts in the first world. The more prosperous we are, the more our leaders will be received with open arms. International relations are operate on such basis as we know. For a country to be rich is always look upon by others. Imagine u walk into a LV shop at T, the moment you hve committed to buy one top of the range bags and considering others, you will be treated with respect and adoration. Pri 2 kids now learn that money talks. On this material planet, money is the currency of international relations. Go and see how many long established unis willing to compromise on their entry requirements to recruit foreign students. You know well.

                        I must add money does not bring happiness but is good to have alot so that we can be a blessing to those in need.

                        I for one will not apologise for being a good trader and investor.
                        That you are a good investor is relevant to whether Jim Rogers contributes to Singapore... and is prepared to call us home? :scratchhead:

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