By Election for Hougang

[Strparent]

Way2GO:

dis feeback was taken fr a reader in Alex Au's article in Yawning Bread:

(bold is mine)

mirax
27 May 2012 at 01:28

FYI my deceased brother was an inactive member of the young pap and 3 months after he died we received a letter from the PAP demanding that he pay up his overdue membership fees! (You have to see this to believe it.)

Way2GO, :yikes: :yikes:

but I also read of another similar story, about someone who serve as a RC grassroot helper for 20-25 years, and when he passed away, not a note from the PAP branch, but LTK came during the wake to give his customary respect.

Way2GO:

There r indeed some gud MIWs.
n these r warmly remembered by residents of their ward
n get voted in on their own merit.

here, I agree again, yes there are some really good MIW MPs for sure. But their hands are tied when in parliament, aren't they ?

The surest and fairest way to choose the MPs of our choices ON PURE MERIT would to revert back to the pre-GRC days and every single ward is an SMC. Then, and only then, would you see all MPs working their socks off to earn their worth and respect.

my MP got in through a GRC and has done so for the past 4 elections :skeptical:

[Way2GO]

Strparent:

from http://www.mrbrown.com/blog/


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imo, TCH's views are not reflective of majority of Singaporeans, and it is HE who speaks for himself. He cant possibly believe that all the supporters who turned up are ONLY from Hougang, right ? :slapshead:

would be interesting to see PasirRis GRC performance in 2016 :imanangel:

Well there is at least one parrot in d form of CMH.
When did she changed her job title?
Different title, still same shit. :sick:

[Joule]

Way2GO:

Pris.tang:

And honestly for my particular area i never see a opp face till ge is near when there is no ge where are they???

DC is staying on in Hougang to help even though he lost can we say the same about other areas belonging to the ruling party do we see any opp party walking the grounds??

It’s not a level playing field.
MIWs put up many barriers to make it very difficult for d opposition to gain ground
whereas they at d same time, make d rules (n passed in parliament without much objection)
dat allow their man to remain in oppo wards to maintain a constant presence.

u r fortunate to hv a gud MIW MP.
I hv nvr seen mine, whether GE or no GE.
If I shd suddenly see my MIW MP one day, I wld hv thot I saw a ghost! :rotflmao:

by the way, I was thinking that DC is a good guy, but I came across my old FBposting.

This DC also is a sneaky one and can behave dishonourably as well.


ST

Desmond Choo wishes to transfer 6 plots of land to PA




Hougang SMC grassroots advisor Desmond Choo (center) is applying for the transfer of the management of six plots of land from the opposition-run Hougang Town Council to the People's Association. -- PHOTO: ZAO BAO
By Teo Wan Gek

Hougang SMC grassroots advisor Desmond Choo is applying for the transfer of the management of six plots of land from the opposition-run Hougang Town Council to the People's Association, in a bid to reach out to more residents.

He is currently in talks with the PA, who is applying to the Housing Board on his behalf, for the transferral of lease.

Mr Choo on Tuesday revealed at a press conference at the Hougang Community Club that this comes after several failed attempts over the years by the PA grassroots organisations to secure successful applications from the town council.

Applications to the Hougang Town Council for use of land, which has been run by the Workers' Party since 1991, were often either rejected without reason, ignored, or approved - but only a day before the event was supposed to take place, he said.

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Angelight:

Read from TODAY paper that DC was jeered at by the residents there when he went round to make his 'thank-you' parade in Hougang. I felt this is really uncalled for. Although he lost the by election, he was gracious enough to congratulate PEH and even said PEH \"deserved to win becos he had worked very hard in that estate\". I think DC has also worked very hard in Hougang, despite losing the GE last year, he still stayed on to serve the Hougang residents. For this alone, I don't think he deserved to be jeered at.


This is not the first time WP supporters had jeered at MPs of ruling party. At the last GE when GY, WKS and other PAP MPs gave a speech on Nomination Day, WP supporters also booed at them. What is with these pple, that they have absolutely no respect for others who are not in the same camp as them. It also reflects very badly on the WP supporters and the party they supported.

Actually I've tried to refrain from posting here cos I know there are many WP supporters here and didn't want to be slammed. But I felt so sorry for DC after reading about him being sneered and jeered at during the thank-you parade that I just felt I have to say something.

Btw, I am not a Hougang resident and this by election didn't affect me at all. But I just want to bring this up and hope that people will respect others who are not in the same camp, league or whatever. Respecting others is also respecting ourselves.

:goodpost: :hi5: :thankyou:

[Way2GO]

Strparent:

but I also read of another similar story, about someone who serve as a RC grassroot helper for 20-25 years, and when he passed away, not a note from the PAP branch, but LTK came during the wake to give his customary respect.

*shake head* can post it here?

Strparent:

here, I agree again, yes there are some really good MIW MPs for sure. But their hands are tied when in parliament, aren't they ?

Yes, unless they lift d party whip.
Dat's why I n many find it hard to accept DC saying he is independent.

Strparent:

The surest and fairest way to choose the MPs of our choices ON PURE MERIT would to revert back to the pre-GRC days and every single ward is an SMC. Then, and only then, would you see all MPs working their socks off to earn their worth and respect.

my MP got in through a GRC and has done so for the past 4 elections :skeptical:

There is some merit to old man's arguments about having GRC
to bring in minority candidates.
Frankly, there is a dearth of good calibre minority candidates,
n some of d present ones wouldn't get pass d post by a long mile in a SMC contest.
Having all SMCs n wanting some minority representation in parliament
wld mean going back to enclaves along racial lines.
But I also strongly believe d GRC has deviate from its noble intent n abused by d MIWs.

[magiccastle]

DC has to work extra hard in HG bec HG has a stronghold of opposition support. He has no choice since it is the ward allocated to him by the PAP . He just has to listen n follow the instruction . Is either he continue to 'fight' or give up like Eric Low. 有缘无份 to become a MP。The HG residents chose by party n not person. If DC is from WP , he will get into parliament Liao. Look at Potong Pasir - sitoh . Did he actually speak up in parliament for his residents ? Any difference he made to the estate ? Did he work equally as hard now compared to before he become the MP. He is 3rd time lucky bec of CST 's health n leaving PP . CST is too individualistic .if he could have grow his political party like what LTk did to WP , PP will still be an opposition ward.

Really felt unfair to those PAP candidates that are fielded in strong opposite ward ESP HG . Tried a few time , work hard at ground level still cannot make it n compared to those lucky ones who don't have to do any campaign n last min just piggy back got in to parliament . So PAP will field the 2nd rate candidates in the the opposite ward , up to their luck whether they are lucky to get in the parliament .
DC , tho didn't get in to parliment but he is now well known to Singaporeans. Compared to other new younger MPs who piggy back into the parliament , we didn't even know of their names, faces or existence . :stompfeet:

[cool_hi]

I am not staying in HG, but I sincerely thank all HGers for their votes for WP…usually, I am super-lazy to post…but coz i am really happy…I tell myself I really want to thank them, for helping S’poreans voice up!!

coz I seriously think our govt is really too complacent!!
WHILE our people are dealing with inflation daily, squeeze in super-uncomfortable MRT which may ANY time breakdown+waste millions of people’s time, all-time high property prices(which is hindering young couples from starting a family, though they are encouraged to tie the knot & reproduce??), & many other problems…
what are the ministers doing? & still enjoying super-high pay(one of the highest in the whole world, which Ang mohs also ‘no fight’,in the holy name of attracting talents into paliament!!), ALL from our pockets…
To me, yes reasonable pay, but if need super-high pay to attract so-called talents, then what can u say of these talent’s sincerity in serving??

I was really worried that PAP may win…now am super-glad & relieved that they didn’t!!!
CHEERS!!

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Way2GO:

Strparent:

but I also read of another similar story, about someone who serve as a RC grassroot helper for 20-25 years, and when he passed away, not a note from the PAP branch, but LTK came during the wake to give his customary respect.

*shake head* can post it here?

Did a search again, it was on none other than https://www.facebook.com/notes/neo-swee-lin/i-was-there-forgot-all-about-this/10150179241319206. She played PhuaChuKang's mother in PCK.

ok I was mistaken, the deceased got a plaque

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Way2GO:

There is some merit to old man's arguments about having GRC
to bring in minority candidates.
Frankly, there is a dearth of good calibre minority candidates,
n some of d present ones wouldn't get pass d post by a long mile in a SMC contest.
Having all SMCs n wanting some minority representation in parliament
wld mean going back to enclaves along racial lines.
But I also strongly believe d GRC has deviate from its noble intent n abused by d MIWs.

there aren't that many high calibre opposition too, imho. How many LTK, PS, CSM are there to compete for 87 wards ?
Okay, but you have a valid point, so perhaps possibly half should be SMCs ? :evil:

I still remember Chiam See Tong's attempt to refine this GRC issue with the original PM Lee and GCT in parliament....
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6NTRAOaIwU][/youtube]

[Pris.011283tang]

ok anyone can clarify for me mei hwan drive under which grc pls thanks

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Pris.tang:

ok anyone can clarify for me mei hwan drive under which grc pls thanks

If I am not wrong, it should be under Aljunied GRC now. However , I believe 4 years down the road , nearer to GE2016, it may change ward due to new electoral map. :rotflmao: