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    Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

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    • J Offline
      jtoh
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      Starting salaries for degree-holder trainee teachers:


      Qualifications \tGross Starting Salary
      Pass Degree \t$2,770
      Pass with Merit $2,900
      Honours \t$3,100 to $3,250

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        kitty2
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        phankao:
        limlim:

        [quote=\"jedamum\"]
        if moe impose a strict rule disallowing such, maybe moe stand to lose even more teachers to the tuition industry.

        it should never have been that way in the first place, allowing teacher to give tuition.

        So, in all industries, the companies should allow their staff to moonlight so that they do not lose workers? what logic is that?

        There is clear conflict of interest. The teachers may put more effort into the variable private income (And maybe not paying tax for it) and less effort on fixed income from schools. End up MORE students in the class need tuition. I teach your student from your school, you teach my students from my school.. together we make lotsa $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

        If the teachers cannot be committed and focused on school classes, it is better that they leave the teaching profession.

        the only rule is that teachers cannot give tuition to students in their own school. If they do - well, that has to be free.[/quote]Not true as some teachers are teaching in tuition centres,their students are from their school

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          Sim TT
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          Many teachers, especially those good ones, can now quit their job and teach tuition. Teach only those smart ones and no need do so much admin/cca, less stressful and still can take care of their own kids.


          http://unbrandedbreadnbutter.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/singapore-sons-and-daughters-moe-budget-debate-and-social-mobility/

          Some of these elite tuition centres pay really well. Worse is actually our kids have to go tuition to get access to these good teachers...brain drain on the education system. Only those really passionate and those who cannot make it outside will stay on. Overall standard of teachers dropping.

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            Imami
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            jtoh:
            Starting salaries for degree-holder trainee teachers:


            Qualifications \tGross Starting Salary
            Pass Degree \t$2,770
            Pass with Merit $2,900
            Honours \t$3,100 to $3,250
            Erm... Sorry ah, this is for teachers teaching primary school? Or secondary school?

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              SAHM_TAN
              last edited by

              There’s no difference in salary for trs teaching in pri, sec or JC level, within the same grade.

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                phtthp
                last edited by

                Sim TT:
                Only those really passionate and those who cannot make it outside will stay on. Overall standard of teachers dropping.

                high time to revamp MOE, revamp the standard of teaching in primary schools !
                Something has gone wrong, if teachers allowed to moonlight.

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                  SAHM_TAN
                  last edited by

                  How to judge that the std of teachers have dropped?

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                  • janet88J Offline
                    janet88
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                    MOE knows teachers are giving tuition. But with long hours in school, it knows there is a limit teachers can do. If people go straight into teaching line, the pay increment and promotion is fast. But don't attempt a career switch.


                    Professional tutors can command students' attention bcos kids know why they have tuition. My son listens to his tutors bcos they know his weaknesses...it's not that he doesn't listen in class.
                    Just yest, he told me teacher completed a science topic after 2 lessons !!! :faint: The tutor is still teaching the same topic bcos it is tough...mind you, it is p6. Even a P3 science topic requires several lessons, diversity for eg.

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                      sandunes
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                      jtoh:
                      Starting salaries for degree-holder trainee teachers:


                      Qualifications \tGross Starting Salary
                      Pass Degree \t$2,770
                      Pass with Merit $2,900
                      Honours \t$3,100 to $3,250
                      The starting pay looks fine but what abt the increment? Do we know if it rewards good teachers who have stayed on? I hope so.

                      My friend wanted to make a mid career switch to teaching but had to suffer a pay cut of 50% if she were to take up the offer for pri/sec level. In the end, for financial reasons, she has to opt to teach at tertiary level.

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                        autumnbronze
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                        I beg to differ please.


                        Pay increment and promotion is not fast at all, especially if you are NOT a scholar or good honors holder.

                        Even the starting pay for pass, merit and honors degree holders differ.

                        The teaching profession is fraught with the similar if not same politics as you would expect from the private sector. It may be even worse.

                        So if you are surrounded with superiors with no integrity, then it’s pretty easy to work your way up. You just need to press the right buttons.

                        I reckon that’s one of the reasons WHY the passionate ones get disillusioned fast and abandon ship. Precisely because their efforts are, most of the time, not recognized at all.

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