at wat age can our kids renounce their citizenship?
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ahkeong:
you mean.. bonus....?
honestly, quite sick and tired of this rat race and with a government who are simply more concerned with GDP which directly determines their performance than the happiness and welfare of the citizens -
nansk:
What happened to Kuwait isn't really that long ago.....
More than that, I wonder whether a reservist force is still needed in today's business-driven world. Today, economics is the main thing that matters. Countries will not go to war with each other if it is going to hurt their economy/trade/business/markets. Nor will countries go to war and occupy other countries to build empires (like they did in the 19th century). So diplomacy and consensus are more necessary today than being fighting-ready.
Peace prevails only when there is a deterrence force.
It hurts them ONLY when the defending country HAVE a credible deterrence force.
If that country is naked.. it wouldn't hurt the attacker much.. justice? you believe in international law and order?
If there is no benefit to US or other big countries, they wouldn't even bother to interfere.
SG have a VERY low crime rate. Do you leave your doors unlocked when there is nobody at home? Nowadays, very few break-in what.. or do you depend on your neighbors to watch out for you.........? -
laughingcat:
No NS doesn't mean no Armed Forces.
That is great! All these countries that you name do not have national service. So what is SGP doing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_service
If they can sustain an armed forces w/o NS, it is ok w/o NS.
But SG couldn't produce an armed forces w/o NS.
So, NS have to stay.
Other countries like Taiwan, Switzerland etc.. I guess, also have NS. -
A strong defence is critical otherwise we can be easily taken advantage by some who are not friendly. Just hve to educate our sons to be proud and make the best out ot the 22 mths-2 yrs even as they are expected to be losing out to male fts for good jobs and choosing suitable wives. It’s a big sacrifice serving this nation, ready to lay down their lives(all servicemen must take an oath) with no pay but meagre allowances.
Pray that your sons are good academically as they will only be up to three yrs behind their foreign competitors and two yrs vs-a vs our local girls. Those who are mediocre or below average are up to four yrs and five yrs respectively behind the curve.
If we love our nation and feel that all the above sacrifices are worth it, then we should support a strong toal defence policy. -
laughingcat:
I recall Malaysia tried selective NS a few years back. Dat program still on, ya?
That is great! All these countries that you name do not have national service. So what is SGP doing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_service -
laughingcat:
Dubai has oil;
That is great! All these countries that you name do not have national service. So what is SGP doing?verykiasu2010:
already Dubai is going to overtake Changi as a the global hub of choice - every major city in the world on Earth is within one non-stop flight from Dubai. Emirates is bypassing Changi for the OZ and NZ routes; Shanghai's Yangshang Gang has already overtaken PSA; HK & Shenzhen's Yantian Port combined is busier than PSA ..... manufacturing cost in Vietnam is cheaper than China ..... the list goes on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_service
China has oil, minerals, people, land
OZ & NZ ? land, minerals, etc
what does singapore has : 3.2m citizens who can whine very well .... :rotflmao: -
Edureach:
Agree with ur sentiments in general.A strong defence is critical otherwise we can be easily taken advantage by some who are not friendly. Just hve to educate our sons to be proud and make the best out ot the 22 mths-2 yrs even as they are expected to be losing out to male fts for good jobs and choosing suitable wives. It's a big sacrifice serving this nation, ready to lay down their lives(all servicemen must take an oath) with no pay but meagre allowances.
Pray that your sons are good academically as they will only be up to three yrs behind their foreign competitors and two yrs vs-a vs our local girls. Those who are mediocre or below average are up to four yrs and five yrs respectively behind the curve.
If we love our nation and feel that all the above sacrifices are worth it, then we should support a strong toal defence policy.
However, with d way things r or perceived now, rightly arnot,
d young will start to query, \"wat r we sacrificing for or defending wat?\"
PT's NS stint doesn't help in encouraging all to sacrifice their all for d gud of d country. -
nansk:
Diplomacy first,
More than that, I wonder whether a reservist force is still needed in today's business-driven world. Today, economics is the main thing that drives foreign policy. Countries will not go to war with each other if it is going to hurt their economy/trade/business/markets. Nor will countries go to war and occupy other countries to build empires (like they did in the 19th century). So diplomacy and consensus are more necessary today than being fighting-ready.
failing which, military might has to be used.
Speak softly but carry a BIG stick - dats d OM.
d lessons fr d British n Allied forces abandoning SG during WW2 n more recently Kuwait shd not be lost to antiquity.
u believe US's expressed purpose for d invasion of Iraq is to destroy weapons of mass destruction?
Why is d US shifting more military assets to Asia Pacific region n increase its presence in SG? To protect SG?
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Way2GO
Parental support is crutial in this instance. Our boys do not hve a choice. That’s why i hold the opinion that a serviceman’s contribution to our beloved nation exceeds those foreign talents no matter how significant their individual contributions to our society. -
I would choose nz or Toronto…but anywhere up there or down there probably too cold for me…
But seriously, one really has to have $$$$$ before moving to another country. Not that easy now when job is hard to find…
Frim what i have seen, Chinese tend to open cafes, restaurants, massage centre, medical hall.
Indian usually mama stores.
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