Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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gvyong:
:rotflmao: Do you have confidence in Bukit Panjang Pri Sch? :evil:SAHM_TAN:
I don't think there's any real problem with registration system. The push for change is primary becos parents are not confident in all the schools. If MOE can resolve this confidence issue, registration will be a less stressful process.
I have confidence in all schools that are:
1) not named after the neighborhood/location
2) have a clear set of values, traditions n support of alumni
3) able to build upon n proud of its history
4) are able to offer programs for all levels, n not just cater to the gifted, well to do or mainstream( in the guise of 'holistic' education)
5) not built to be the phase 2c supp sch of the area -
SAHM_TAN:
I don't think there's any real problem with registration system. The push for change is primary becos parents are not confident in all the schools. If MOE can resolve this confidence issue, registration will be a less stressful process.
Nothing to do with confidence....
MOE is touting \"Every School is A Good School\".
The reality is there will always be preferences be it on
1)academic excellence
2)faith-based
3)school history/culture
4)distance
5)location
and the list goes on....
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LOLMum:
If that's the case, it should only be fair then (whether rent or owner occupied) , that once moved house, the child should also move to the school nearer to the new home - since that was the premise one got into the school under Phase 2 C in the first place i.e based on distance.Precisely. As long as one is staying at the address, be it own or rent, used for registration, it is not against the terms and conditions set by moe.
Moe also know it is impossible to insist a family stay put inone place for the full six years or more.
There are just too many, abusing the rental route , mostly for short -term to enrol into popular school by distance. For parents, with two children and more, it makes absolute sense to \"invest\" for just two years of \"rental\" since the subsequent children will autmatically qualify for Phase 2A.
If phase 2C under renting (short-tem) is not curbed, we are only exacerbating the problem of lopsided numbers, reserved for Phase 2A - sibling's priority. -
verykiasu2010:
\\it is very difficult, if not impossible, to dictate that one must stay at the address for the duration of the primary school education - family financial situation does change
as long as it is proven no intention at cheating, it should be fine; or if it is proven fraudulent / cheating, then by all means punish them severely
It's next to impossible too to distinguish what' s the fraudulent from the bona fide .
However, what should hold true consistently , is the premise upon which Phase 2C is discharged.
Given that the the premise of qualifying for Phase 2C selection is based on distance, this principle should continue to apply throughout the 6 years of primary education.
Therefore, the bottomline is - once moved house (beyond 1/2km, whether rental or owner occupied) , then your subsequent child (in fact this should also apply to the incumbent first child too, transfer to new school nearer to new home) , should no longer qualify under Phase 2A for P1 registration. It's just too much to continue occupying top priority under Phase 2A for subsequent child when you have clearly \"completed\" abusing the principle of Phase 2C to get a headstart.
One might argue that since the first child is already enrolled into the school, it is just maintaining economies of scale to allow the 2nd ,3rd child to be in the same school as the elder- one stop tranport etc . However, this goes against the grain of the principle of Phase 2C , distance upon which the elder child qualifies for the place in the school. In the first place, there should not be unnecessary ferrying or transport if one clearly continues to stay within 1/2km distance of school.
In addition, by enforcing this strict principle, the school can continuously assure that students who qualify in phase 2 C and remain throughout the 6 years of education, are those who remain within the 1 /2kim radius . It keeps the traffic off the road for everyone else and all the unnecessary ferrying around.
[b]Adminstratively to carry this out, when qualifying for Phase 2A of subsequent child, the administrator should ask for proof of 1st child initial address and distinguish whether rental or owner occupied and the duration of occupation. If proven ,that the occupation was a short-term one, and clearly the new address reflects one beyond 1/2 km, phase 2A should not be open for the 2nd child anymore. The 1st child should also be requested to transfer to the school nearer to new home. This will clear up alot of spaces for people who are vested in their homes within 1/2km for a very long time. This will also clearly deter people going the rental route and create absolute unfair imbalance in Phase 1 and 2A subsequently.[/b] -
Lizzie:
It's next to impossible too to distinguish what' s the fraudulent from the bona fide...
This will also means that those Bukit Timah schools will only be reserved for the rich only, common folks can only dream on. The current P2A & P2B allows common folks to have a chance in BT school....... -
MR06:
:rotflmao: Do you have confidence in Bukit Panjang Pri Sch? :evil:[/quote]I predict in 20-30 years time, due to falling enrollment from changing demographics as Bukit Panjang estate ages, BPPS will be absorbed & merged into the new Holland-Bukit Timah GRC primary school! :evil:gvyong:
[quote=\"SAHM_TAN\"]I don't think there's any real problem with registration system. The push for change is primary becos parents are not confident in all the schools. If MOE can resolve this confidence issue, registration will be a less stressful process.
I have confidence in all schools that are:
1) not named after the neighborhood/location
2) have a clear set of values, traditions n support of alumni
3) able to build upon n proud of its history
4) are able to offer programs for all levels, n not just cater to the gifted, well to do or mainstream( in the guise of 'holistic' education)
5) not built to be the phase 2c supp sch of the area
Meanwhile, St XYZ primary school moves from town to a new HDB estate and becomes...St XYZ primary school
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jheng:
This will also means that those Bukit Timah schools will only be reserved for the rich only, common folks can only dream on. The current P2A & P2B allows common folks to have a chance in BT school.......
Not true.
On the contrary, by tightening this process , you will allow the less well off to even have a \"fighting chance\" at the balloting table.
The reason is this:
Renting in BT places don't come cheap either , so those currently in P2A (who have benefited from earlier siblings who got in thru rental) are rather well off since they are able to afford 5 k rental pm.
If this process is tightened , then this will leave more spaces for Phase 2C, open to public.
Since RGPS and NGPS are of lower density area , it may even reach a wider distance of potential children beyond the \"traditional\" 1 km (very seldom those staying beyond 1 km, can ever sniff a chance of applying since balloting within 1 km is already rather fierce).
In fact, given these really low residential density of these popular schools, there may even be a possible chance for those staying beyond 2km, 3km (heartlands like holland) or even more to have chance to ve a foot in the door.
As reported in the papers, there is an unhealthy number already dominating Phase 2A.
Investigation should be looked into the breakdown and profile of who these applicants are in Phase 2 A - Alumni? Siblings (got in via merit of distance?
If so, then the subsequent siblings who apply under Phase 2A must continue to stay within the 1/2km distance , otherwise Phase 2C is just a loophole to be abused by the \"rich\" as in your words so decribed .)
On another note, by doing this too, you are keeping the number of those who qualify under Phase 2A (specifically under Alumni status) constant as well . Since if only those who live within the vicinity can apply, it 's only logical that Phase 2A will clearly only be dominated Alumnus status. (rooting out those siblings status but clearly not within distance based). Besides, how many times can one use the address in District 9,10, 11 to qualify for Phase 2 C ? Only once perhaps , since the subsequent children/grandchildren , will in the truest sense of the word be applying under Phase 2 A as an alumnus status . This numbers will be kept rather constant instead of now the unhealthy lopsided numbers dominating Phase 2 A (fed by the loophole in Phase 2 C) which seems to be growing bigger? -
My former primary school (Swiss Cottage) has closed down…or I would have registered my kids there.
Find out more about the primary school…the culture, whether it is really holistic. This will help you determine if your child can adapt to the environment. Sometimes, that school within walking distance may not be suitable…it’s not all about proximity. Every child is different. Some can work under pressure…but the same pressure applied to another child can lead to him/her crumbling. -
MR06:
Yes, there will be preferences, it's only human nature, but from what I read and the registration pattern, it's beyond preference.SAHM_TAN:
I don't think there's any real problem with registration system. The push for change is primary becos parents are not confident in all the schools. If MOE can resolve this confidence issue, registration will be a less stressful process.
Nothing to do with confidence....
MOE is touting \"Every School is A Good School\".
The reality is there will always be preferences be it on
1)academic excellence
2)faith-based
3)school history/culture
4)distance
5)location
and the list goes on.... -
janet_lee88:
Sometimes, that school within walking distance may not be suitable...it's not all about proximity. Every child is different.
This is so true!
My kids' 1st primary school was a stone throw away only & with a long list of PVs and fierce balloting each year. Yet I transfer them to a further away school. Other parents think I'm :siao: to give up ' hot seats' & transfer out. Place on my kids on wait list since p1 but stuck on waitlist of that 2nd primary school for another 2 years.
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