Chinese pupils lost out in PSLE MT Exam

[Sun_2010]

wiimum:

I suspect there is another problem in the Chinese MT: the students who are originally from China or whose parents have become citizens , PR recently, these students would have higher standard in the Chinese language and this would affect the overall expectation of our students in the Chinese language.

Err.... would'nt these kids have a distinct disadvantage in English ?
If they dont and have managed mastered two languages , then they deserve the scores isnt it? I mean, isn't that what meritocracy is all about?

[Truth Hurts]

Let me clarify…no intent to bash our local teachers here nor FTs.


Imagine your child is tested by 2 Chinese MT teachers. 1) One is China-born and the other local. I can say the expectations are higher if he is to do well for his exam. 2) Another child who takes Malay MT is tested by local born Malay MT teachers. They are both marked according to the same rubrics for oral. All things being equal, I will really be worried for the Chinese pupil in this case.

My point is that our primary schools are being flooded by many China born MT teachers. This puts our local Chinese speaking pupils at a disadvantage because their T-score suffers. Maybe this is why so many foreign pupils are doing better for PSLE than our locals. Did MOE think about this before going on a recruitment drive for China Born MT teachers?

[Sad Person]

I think that it may be a little unfair…

but some china teachers are quiet kind…

[jtoh]

Are there a lot of teachers from China teaching in our schools? In all my dd’s school life she’s never had any mainland Chinese teachers. So does that put her at a significant disadvantage, bec she’s taught by local teachers, tested by foreign teachers?

[Peony]

Truth Hurts:

Let me clarify...no intent to bash our local teachers here nor FTs.


Imagine your child is tested by 2 Chinese MT teachers. 1) One is China-born and the other local. I can say the expectations are higher if he is to do well for his exam. 2) Another child who takes Malay MT is tested by local born Malay MT teachers. They are both marked according to the same rubrics for oral. All things being equal, I will really be worried for the Chinese pupil in this case.

My point is that our primary schools are being flooded by many China born MT teachers. This puts our local Chinese speaking pupils at a disadvantage because their T-score suffers. Maybe this is why so many foreign pupils are doing better for PSLE than our locals. Did MOE think about this before going on a recruitment drive for China Born MT teachers?

Just sharing a personal opinion...
Finally an advantage for taking Malay...
- no use for HMT score coz no Malay SAP sch
- not all schools offer Malay
- some schools exclude those taking Malay from the best class even if their scores are one of the highest (citing the fact that they cannot accommodate the one or two who make the grade)

Just a thought...

[SAHM_TAN]

Truth Hurts:

Let me clarify...no intent to bash our local teachers here nor FTs.


Imagine your child is tested by 2 Chinese MT teachers. 1) One is China-born and the other local. I can say the expectations are higher if he is to do well for his exam. 2) Another child who takes Malay MT is tested by local born Malay MT teachers. They are both marked according to the same rubrics for oral. All things being equal, I will really be worried for the Chinese pupil in this case.

My point is that our primary schools are being flooded by many China born MT teachers. This puts our local Chinese speaking pupils at a disadvantage because their T-score suffers. Maybe this is why so many foreign pupils are doing better for PSLE than our locals. Did MOE think about this before going on a recruitment drive for China Born MT teachers?

Errrrrr...... brush up on Chi lor.

[darlingbudsofmay]

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[GLORYmum]

Cannot blame ft for our problem in mt lah.

I know ft’s dd even had to go for mt tuition coz born n bred here like us.

Our mt problem long exists even before ft has arrived.

My 2c

[bupashu]

Truth Hurts:

Before I begin, please note I am not bashing FT here. Nor am I saying that our local MT teachers do not have the standard of our China born MT Teachers. I am merely stating my observation.


My observation
1) MOE has employed many Chinese MT teachers from China. When they invilgilate the oral exams and mark your child's scripts, their expectations are much higher. Thus making it harder for our local children to score well for Chinese MT. Is this fair for children taking Chinese MT?

2) Is the same process applied by MOE in recruiting FTs to teach Malay MT or Tamil? I don't think so.

Your views on the matter? Thanks

do you prefer all local MT teacher to teach low standard language to your kids and examine at a lower standard ? score well nationally in exam and when go to China still cannot communicate properly, what for ? is a disgrace isn't when can't even string a coherent sentence together ?

but you are exactly right, the truth hurts!

[koguma]

I am just stating my views, do not hatam me


If other singapore kids can get A/A* for CL2 and Merit/Distinction for CL1, I don't think the nationality of the markers make a different.
Instead, I will be asking myself why my kids/nephews/nieces cannot achieve the same grade as those who can make it.

Unless someone can prove to me that majority of Singapore kids are getting C or D or E for CL2, then I don't see any issues of having more China born MT Teachers.

Instead, I will be more than happy if my kids/nephews/nieces are taught by China born MT Teachers ! One of my nieces is taught by a Chinese born teacher in P5 and P6, and he really helps to build her strong foundation in the language. Throughout her 4 years in Sec school, she is one of the rare few Singapore born students to pass HCL, only lose to the China scholars in her school. Most of her Singapore born classmates fail HCL frequently and has to drop HCL to normal CL !

Why not look at things positively and take the opportunity to learn from whatever resources we have?