2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take
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av8trxx:
Well put. It's the case in many countries overseas (including those where Singaporean students study). Overseas students pay higher fees and subsidise local students. It's fair. To suggest that SCs are in some way subsidizing overseas students who will be paying $500 per month is displaying ignorance of how the system works.koppie:
Imagine, if moe had assured that even foreigners kids will get places in our public school, you and I will be subsidizing the education of these kids through our taxes! That would be ridiculous!
Thankfully, the minister only meant SC and PR kids when he said all kids will get a place in primary schools.
Calm yourself and learn the facts - foreigners pay steep fees each month therefore they are no drain on your tax dollars! You are not subsidizing any foreign kid who has achieved a placement in Phase 3.
And, everyone pays taxes! Therefore it could be argued that Foreigners are subsidizing SC and PR through their tax dollars with none of the benefits- but that fact is conveniently forgotten!!!? -
dimsum:
The foreign kids applying in phase 3 comprise of 2 groups : (1) Parents are working and residing in Singapore (2) Parents are not working and residing in Singapore. Group 2 certainly are not paying income taxes. And I am not aware of any country in the world that will ensure foreign kids can have places in their public schools. Although the fees paid are higher, but it's still not high enough to cover the costs.[/quote]can a foreigner staying in Singapore without employment??av8trxx:
[quote=\"koppie\"]Imagine, if moe had assured that even foreigners kids will get places in our public school, you and I will be subsidizing the education of these kids through our taxes! That would be ridiculous!
Thankfully, the minister only meant SC and PR kids when he said all kids will get a place in primary schools.
Calm yourself and learn the facts - foreigners pay steep fees each month therefore they are no drain on your tax dollars! You are not subsidizing any foreign kid who has achieved a placement in Phase 3.
And, everyone pays taxes! Therefore it could be argued that Foreigners are subsidizing SC and PR through their tax dollars with none of the benefits- but that fact is conveniently forgotten!!!? -
Yes, possible.
Some Indonesians hire a guardian in sg, or get their relatives to take care of their child study in sg.
But the parents stay & work in Indonesia.
Another group (example) is those "pei tong" mama from china.
The child is not sg citizen nor pr. -
It’s very difficult to be able to apply to a school unless your child has a DP. Most likely if a child has a DP, at least one parent is working. I am from the US and in most states you do not have even have to prove you are a legal resident to enrol in school Basically every child who wants an education is guaranteed an education. Is is the same in the UK as well.
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av8trxx:
That is true. Foreigners also pay tax so they have right to register for their child to the Primary School (with higher school fee I sure). That happens everywhere on the world. I am writing to MOE to seek their help to register for my child into Singapore governmental Primary system. We were balloted out from the morning slot, and when we went to some of other schools that we thought there was still vacancies (from MOE website), a long queue was there with parents placed their slot from midnight. And after travel through 3-4 schools we had to give it up. My daughter was also so tired and sad.koppie:
Imagine, if moe had assured that even foreigners kids will get places in our public school, you and I will be subsidizing the education of these kids through our taxes! That would be ridiculous!
Thankfully, the minister only meant SC and PR kids when he said all kids will get a place in primary schools.
Calm yourself and learn the facts - foreigners pay steep fees each month therefore they are no drain on your tax dollars! You are not subsidizing any foreign kid who has achieved a placement in Phase 3.
And, everyone pays taxes! Therefore it could be argued that Foreigners are subsidizing SC and PR through their tax dollars with none of the benefits- but that fact is conveniently forgotten!!!? -
Roastedsquid:
It's very difficult to be able to apply to a school unless your child has a DP. Most likely if a child has a DP, at least one parent is working. I am from the US and in most states you do not have even have to prove you are a legal resident to enrol in school Basically every child who wants an education is guaranteed an education. Is is the same in the UK as well.
In most places, every child (regardless of nationality) who wants an education is guaranteed one.
Unfortunately, Singapore is not an example of one of those places.
The significant differences being the relative size of Singapore and the neighbouring countries' population, and the perceived strength of Singapore's education. If every student from Johor State in Malaysia or the Riau province in Indonesia (just quoting examples of 2 of the nearest foreign states/provinces) wants to study here, I am not sure how many schools have to be built to cope with the demand.
It's a risk - no placement in Government schools - that foreigners have to take (I am foreigner in another country too). They have a right to register but there isn't a guarantee that they will get it. -
Some fees at I schs (per annum)
UWC - $30k
CNIS - $22k
NPS Intl - $13k
DPS Intl - $8k
San Yu Adventist - $9k -
Dimsum - there are tons of countries who do not discriminate according to the nationality of the children registering for a place at a public school in their adopted country. Off the top of my head, Australia, USA, England and Canada - just to name a few…
I am not begrudging the Singapore Government for their system; it is what it is. What upsets me is that there seems to be a lot of misplaced hatred and wrong information about foreigners wanting to send their children to local schools. Well done I say to these foreigners who are teaching their children the values of harmonious racial intergration and the life lesson that we are alike and can live together. We all love our kids and just want the best for them. It is also great for the local children to have foreigners in their school - think of how they learn about other countries and cultures through their fellow students.
Todays balloting and over-subscription was insane and I feel for the parents who now have a horrible and tough decision to make regarding their kids. Imagine if you were in their shoes… -
I’m sorry that you feel that way. SCs as well as PRs also face the balloting situation that you mention. The fact is a small country like SG has limited resources and its not possible to accommodate everyone just based on their wants. Our very limited infrastructure were already being taxed heavily by the uncontrolled influx of foreigners in the last few years. You are welcome to take your expertise and $$$ to another country who can accommodate to your desires.
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We need another 2 schools with an intake of 360 to accommodate these children currently without a place.
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