* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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Well said Jennifer ! We are dealing with A levels students who are future scholars and civil servants , how this case is explained and the project executed will have an impact on them.
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DennisB:
zeemimi:
Aiyah, where the new IP JC is located is really none of my business. I'm just taken back at some of the arguments thrown forth, and some distorted facts.
#1 Mt Sinai is too far away. We've been promised a JC in Bishan.
-> Nothing was officially made known about the location till early 2014. Whatever \"hearsay\" you heard doesn't hold water.
#2 Mt Sinai not enough LTs. / We don't need LTs.
-> Mt Sinai has enough LTs. JCs need LTs.
#3 Cannot walk fr Buona Vista MRT to Mt Sinai site within 10 mins. 20 mins is not acceptable walking time.
-> But i didn't fly nor run to RJC in the morning. Perhaps i have longer legs? Even if it is 15 mins stroll, you mean our youngsters cannot take it?
#4 No sheltered walkway from MRT to school.
-> How many schools in Singapore have sheltered walkway from MRT right up to the door steps? Granted some have, but not every one has.
#5 IT'S THE DISTANCE! (Yes we heard that loud and clear)
-> Yeah MOE advocates distance. But what have parents been telling MOE? That distance doesn't really matter if it is a good reputable school. Look at the students who attend RI. They don't just stay around TP, Bishan, AMK. They stay in Pasir Ris, Jurong, Sengkang, Marine Parade too. And that is the same for HCI / NJC / VJC / DHS. And since this new IP JC is supposedly going to be another top JC, it's supposedly going to attract students from everywhere.
It looks like whatever solutions is implemented / suggested here will not satisfy the parents unless the JC is back in Bishan. Should just name the new JC \"Bishan JC\".
It's here. Really here. Not at the end of Mt Sinai.
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I m an affected parent. Since you are an unaffected parent and do not have full information, please refrain from making unconstructive comments.
The reality is even for the first batch, the Bishan vicinity was communicated . Parents and children have made their decision on distance amongst other factors. Many staying nearby have forgone choices of other top schools.
Now as the forum writer pointed out, there were multiple boo boo by various agencies but these were never admitted to. Parents want a meeting with the decision making authorities but has not been granted a fair audience . Please try to put yourselves in our shoes and don't rub salt into our wounds.
Agreed with you. For those who are not affected, it is really none of their business -
since pioneering batch are Sec 3 this year : those who intend to convert from IP to "O" level can do so this year (about half a year left, for this year) else not enough time to prepare, sit for next year 2016 "O" level. "O" level syllabus also heavy, need time to prepare. Then with the results, can enter a wider range of JCs, no need go Mount Sinai anymore.
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lee_yl:
Since you are not an affected parent, I suppose you will see things differently and will not feel the disappointment and concerns. It is like a Malaysian telling us that the large foreigner population in Singapore is not a major issue whereas we may beg to differ.zeemimi:
Aiyah, where the new IP JC is located is really none of my business. I'm just taken back at some of the arguments thrown forth, and some distorted facts.
#1 Mt Sinai is too far away. We've been promised a JC in Bishan.
-> Nothing was officially made known about the location till early 2014. Whatever \"hearsay\" you heard doesn't hold water.
#2 Mt Sinai not enough LTs. / We don't need LTs.
-> Mt Sinai has enough LTs. JCs need LTs.
#3 Cannot walk fr Buona Vista MRT to Mt Sinai site within 10 mins. 20 mins is not acceptable walking time.
-> But i didn't fly nor run to RJC in the morning. Perhaps i have longer legs? Even if it is 15 mins stroll, you mean our youngsters cannot take it?
#4 No sheltered walkway from MRT to school.
-> How many schools in Singapore have sheltered walkway from MRT right up to the door steps? Granted some have, but not every one has.
#5 IT'S THE DISTANCE! (Yes we heard that loud and clear)
-> Yeah MOE advocates distance. But what have parents been telling MOE? That distance doesn't really matter if it is a good reputable school. Look at the students who attend RI. They don't just stay around TP, Bishan, AMK. They stay in Pasir Ris, Jurong, Sengkang, Marine Parade too. And that is the same for HCI / NJC / VJC / DHS. And since this new IP JC is supposedly going to be another top JC, it's supposedly going to attract students from everywhere.
It looks like whatever solutions is implemented / suggested here will not satisfy the parents unless the JC is back in Bishan. Should just name the new JC \"Bishan JC\".
It is already a huge challenge to develop a new JC and now with all these uncertainties, it takes a leap of faith and confidence to join the new IP JC. My children are in one of the feeder schools and they like their school tremendously. I am torn between choosing the new JC and a more established IP JC.
Agreed. Those not affected are not in our shoes. They think they know it all -
Jennifer:
We are not talking about 1 mistake. But mistake after mistake..
The authorities should not have made this mistake.zeemimi:
If you can make an honest mistake, so can MOE or LTA or URA or anyone. Why make a big deal out of it?
That's why it is a big deal to affected parents and pupils who made their choice based on those information made available then. -
stetan:
We are not talking about 1 mistake. But mistake after mistake..[/quote]Absolutely agree with Jennifer & Stefan..
The authorities should not have made this mistake.Jennifer:
[quote=\"zeemimi\"]If you can make an honest mistake, so can MOE or LTA or URA or anyone. Why make a big deal out of it?
That's why it is a big deal to affected parents and pupils who made their choice based on those information made available then.
I am still in utter shock that anyone would actually compare the mistake made by lee_yl, a parent in KSP, with that (or those) made by MOE, URA, LTA.
Hey lee_yl.. You're now in the same league as MOE URA LTA !
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we were told the site of the new jc since the start of 2014 and the problem here is why it takes them a year to learn that there is a problem with LTA. dont the 2 minstries communicate? LTA takes a year to inform MOE!
zeemimi:
Aiyah, where the new IP JC is located is really none of my business. I'm just taken back at some of the arguments thrown forth, and some distorted facts.
#1 Mt Sinai is too far away. We've been promised a JC in Bishan.
-> Nothing was officially made known about the location till early 2014. Whatever \"hearsay\" you heard doesn't hold water.
#2 Mt Sinai not enough LTs. / We don't need LTs.
-> Mt Sinai has enough LTs. JCs need LTs.
#3 Cannot walk fr Buona Vista MRT to Mt Sinai site within 10 mins. 20 mins is not acceptable walking time.
-> But i didn't fly nor run to RJC in the morning. Perhaps i have longer legs? Even if it is 15 mins stroll, you mean our youngsters cannot take it?
#4 No sheltered walkway from MRT to school.
-> How many schools in Singapore have sheltered walkway from MRT right up to the door steps? Granted some have, but not every one has.
#5 IT'S THE DISTANCE! (Yes we heard that loud and clear)
-> Yeah MOE advocates distance. But what have parents been telling MOE? That distance doesn't really matter if it is a good reputable school. Look at the students who attend RI. They don't just stay around TP, Bishan, AMK. They stay in Pasir Ris, Jurong, Sengkang, Marine Parade too. And that is the same for HCI / NJC / VJC / DHS. And since this new IP JC is supposedly going to be another top JC, it's supposedly going to attract students from everywhere.
It looks like whatever solutions is implemented / suggested here will not satisfy the parents unless the JC is back in Bishan. Should just name the new JC \"Bishan JC\".
It's here. Really here. Not at the end of Mt Sinai.
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iFirefly:
Absolutely agree with Jennifer & Stefan..
I am still in utter shock that anyone would actually compare the mistake made by lee_yl, a parent in KSP, with that (or those) made by MOE, URA, LTA.
Hey lee_yl.. You're now in the same league as MOE URA LTA !
Too bad, the taxpayers' money don't come to me and luckily for the taxpayers too.
On a more serious note, I am worried that the new IP JC is likely to be off to a rocky start and this does not bode well for its subsequent development. While I still have some time to decide, many parents and their children have already committed in belief of the government's promises. Will be even more unsettling for them. -
Just a suggestion for MOE to consider. Since this MT SINAI site is continously used by schools as a relocation premise plus there are future plans to occupy it for other purposes, is it possible to arrange bus shuttle service from MRT directly to school and vice versa to help the students?
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sushi88:
Just a suggestion for MOE to consider. Since this MT SINAI site is continously used by schools as a relocation premise plus there are future plans to occupy it for other purposes, is it possible to arrange bus shuttle service from MRT directly to school and vice versa to help the students?
I used to take 92 to Science Park. That was 1998 to 1999. It ended ard 7+plus in the evening and did not operate on Sundays. Not sure about now. But can easily verify with SBSTransit website- factual info.
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