* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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If a student has a T-score that is well eligible to enter other IP schools but chose to put the affiliated sec sch IP as first choice, then I feel that this is not asking for upgrade in the present circumstances.
What do you think - still an upgrade?
Those parents in the dialogue session who made this remark, do their child belong to the above category?
Who knows?
No one in this thread would have this piece of information, right? -
sushi88:
Balanced post. :goodpost:lee_yl:
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/education/story/moe-mulling-over-bishan-interim-jc-site-20150527
A factual report on the dialogue with MOE on Monday night.
Many issues raised by the parents that night, went unanswered by the MOE panel. Hope to see some resolution in the coming weeks.
Can share what are the \"many issues raised that went unanswered\"?
As far as I read the report, MOE has taken a big step to review the venue of the interim site and that has already MET the main issue causing the problem. I thought that was a good cause for celebration that you have been heard. Raising irrelevant issues would only put a negative light on the parents now for trying to take advantage of the situation.
Here is some analysis to share:
1. There is no point in pushing for a new JC to be built. Safety first.
As pioneers, there has to be some good pioneer spirit shown at this point when MOE is willing to come to some form of agreement on an alternative site within Bishan itself. Hope people can see this as a win-win approach MOE is trying to extend. Detractors thought that Mt Sinai was the only site, wasn't it? And it has become more apparent that MOE is willing to discuss.
2. Frankly, with all the hoo-ha created, for any student to join any JC in yr 5, they would be frowned upon(rightfully or wrongfully) and there is no time in the 2 years to be frowned upon. Do you seriously want to subject yr kids to such pressure and hostility in an existing JC? Ask your kids if they wish to deal with that. I believe they see the charm in building their own JC culture, a pride and joy they can share as pioneers many years down the road. Please do not deprive them of the defining moments in their JC lives, it is not something everyone gets a chance to do it, it entails enterprising spirit to do that. Perhaps the future successful entrepreneur pool of bosses will come from this positively gutsy lot.
3. Instead of wasting time on unimportant issues, perhaps think what is required to make the new interim site a welcoming stay for the students.
An existing site if can be refurbished faster in the next 2 years can end up as a great site with yr input. What it takes is some active involvement with MOE to iron out any teething problems not obvious to them for the interim site, that would be a constructive partnership with MOE.
My 2 cents worth.
MOE has met with some difficulties in keeping with the plans - so affected parents have a right to feel aggrieved. Please, let's not rub it in.
The way forward is to work out best feasible solution. Getting too emotional or frustrated doesnt help. Focusing on the major issue helps instead of getting sidetracked by minor ones. Our children are more capable than we give credit, imho. -
Jennifer:
Knowing how many students exactly you can always ask MOE.If a student has a T-score that is well eligible to enter other IP schools but chose to put the affiliated sec sch IP as first choice, then I feel that this is not asking for upgrade in the present circumstances.
What do you think - still an upgrade?
Those parents in the dialogue session who made this remark, do their child belong to the above category?
Who knows?
No one in this thread would have this piece of information, right?
Why no parent who thinks a transfer is inappropriate but didn't speak up at the dialogue session against those agitated parents who demanded the transfer nobody knows.
An upgrade or transfer or whatever you call it is not right and not a right. When you have chosen this school after psle you have given up your opportunity for other schools. You don't a right to go back and choose another school. If another school agrees to take in the student after some entrance test then so be it, but saying MOE break promise blah blah blah.... to get direct transfer... :siao: -
sinoboy:
Did you attend the dialogue personally?
Knowing how many students exactly you can always ask MOE.Jennifer:
If a student has a T-score that is well eligible to enter other IP schools but chose to put the affiliated sec sch IP as first choice, then I feel that this is not asking for upgrade in the present circumstances.
What do you think - still an upgrade?
Those parents in the dialogue session who made this remark, do their child belong to the above category?
Who knows?
No one in this thread would have this piece of information, right?
Why no parent who thinks a transfer is inappropriate but didn't speak up at the dialogue session against those agitated parents who demanded the transfer nobody knows.
An upgrade or transfer or whatever you call it is not right and not a right. When you have chosen this school after psle you have given up your opportunity for other schools. You don't a right to go back and choose another school. If another school agrees to take in the student after some entrance test then so be it, but saying MOE break promise blah blah blah.... to get direct transfer... :siao: -
Jennifer:
Did you attend the dialogue personally?[/quote]While I don't see how going to the dialogue session or not is related to this, and this is just a minor issue for a very small minority, I get the message and I'll shut up. :skeptical:
Knowing how many students exactly you can always ask MOE.sinoboy:
[quote=\"Jennifer\"]If a student has a T-score that is well eligible to enter other IP schools but chose to put the affiliated sec sch IP as first choice, then I feel that this is not asking for upgrade in the present circumstances.
What do you think - still an upgrade?
Those parents in the dialogue session who made this remark, do their child belong to the above category?
Who knows?
No one in this thread would have this piece of information, right?
Why no parent who thinks a transfer is inappropriate but didn't speak up at the dialogue session against those agitated parents who demanded the transfer nobody knows.
An upgrade or transfer or whatever you call it is not right and not a right. When you have chosen this school after psle you have given up your opportunity for other schools. You don't a right to go back and choose another school. If another school agrees to take in the student after some entrance test then so be it, but saying MOE break promise blah blah blah.... to get direct transfer... :siao: -
Of course it matter, from your posts i would have thought that you were part of the actions!
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sinoboy:
It matters as to correctness of the information you posted in this thread about the dialogue.Jennifer:
Did you attend the dialogue personally?
While I don't see how going to the dialogue session or not is related to this, and this is just a minor issue for a very small minority, I get the message and I'll shut up. :skeptical:
I wont ask the question : How MANY in numbers anymore, since you wont have the information at all.
Btw, you are free to share your thoughts and feelings about issues. There is no hidden message in my posts to tell you to shut up.
If I want to tell somebody to shut up, I will do it in his face. Wont be hidden. -
Lani:
I really hope that the unaffected parents can put themselves in other people shoes.
From what I heard, one of the principals of the 3 affected sec schools actually declared that the new JC ranking would surpass the top JC during the first Open House when IP was introduced in the school. This had attracted some parents to forgo the top JC and chose this school.
With this turn of events, some affected parents now wish to transfer their kids to the top JC they initially qualified. I believe this is not acceptable to some unaffected parents who view these affected parents as victims of their own greed.
It may only apply to a very small group but we can't deny it exists. Hence not everyone can empathize with the affected parents. -
blurblob11:
Lani:
I really hope that the unaffected parents can put themselves in other people shoes.
From what I heard, one of the principals of the 3 affected sec schools actually declared that the new JC ranking would surpass the top JC during the first Open House when IP was introduced in the school. This had attracted some parents to forgo the top JC and chose this school.
With this turn of events, some affected parents now wish to transfer their kids to the top JC they initially qualified. I believe this is not acceptable to some unaffected parents who view these affected parents as victims of their own greed.
It may only apply to a very small group but we can't deny it exists. Hence not everyone can empathize with the affected parents.
Which P declared that ? this is considered as misrepresentation ! If you buy financial products based on misrepresentation, you can seek for recourse, compensation and report to case and probably MAS! -
cherryc:
blurblob11:
[quote=\"Lani\"]I really hope that the unaffected parents can put themselves in other people shoes.
From what I heard, one of the principals of the 3 affected sec schools actually declared that the new JC ranking would surpass the top JC during the first Open House when IP was introduced in the school. This had attracted some parents to forgo the top JC and chose this school.
With this turn of events, some affected parents now wish to transfer their kids to the top JC they initially qualified. I believe this is not acceptable to some unaffected parents who view these affected parents as victims of their own greed.
It may only apply to a very small group but we can't deny it exists. Hence not everyone can empathize with the affected parents.
Which P declared that ? this is considered as misrepresentation ! If you buy financial products based on misrepresentation, you can seek for recourse, compensation and report to case and probably MAS![/quote]As mentioned, this is what I heard. Try asking the parents who attended the first Open House for IP to verify then.
I am sure the other principal(s) did mention they will place this new JC in top 3 ranking. Try tracing the KSP forums of the affected schools.
Parents of the current top 3 JCs will not be able to empathize with these affected parents too.
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