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    2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      hi chen lao shi,


      is today CL topic considered hard ?

      tomorrow CL topic, will it be harder or easier, based on today topic, because someone earlier commented, "one day easy, next day hard" ?

      today EL topic (Library) is considered … easy

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
        MrsKiasu
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        phtthp\" post_id=\"1929002\" time=\"1565853739\" user_id=\"35251:

        Dino\" post_id=\"1929000\" time=\"1565853642\" user_id=\"6726:

        [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=1928997 time=1565853008 user_id=43981]my dd mentioned learning from adults/their experiences, visiting old age home..no e learning mentioned 😓 I hope not entirely out..

        sounds ok leh

        Yes, sounds good to me, what your daughter mentioned are All relevant points, not out of point

        actually the Chinese Oral not simple, in that some of the points are inter-linked[/quote]really? 🙏

        I could sense/see dd was very ganjiong last night..never like that before 😓

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
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          temjin68\" post_id=\"1929085\" time=\"1565864245\" user_id=\"6076:

          My DS mentioned that the topic is not within what they expect. They have practice many topics in school but this is not even close
          actually very hard to prepare for Oral, anything can come out under the sun

          Yesterday, kid spent so much time reading up some cut up newspaper articles on current affair, but none of the topics prepared came out today. And library, never even prepare at all ... came out unexpectedly.

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          • F Offline
            FHP
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            Thanks Chen Laoshi

            My son said he got 6 questions in total. 1 转向题 per main question not 6 转向题 . Still got chance to get first tier?

            chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1929006\" time=\"1565854076\" user_id=\"162894:
            FHP\" post_id=\"1928989\" time=\"1565852651\" user_id=\"27202:

            My son has around 6 转向题 questions. He said he managed to answer. Will he still lose content marks?

            Apologies for being direct but based on my personal experience, if I ask the student that number of 转向问题,chances are his answers to the initial questions weren't in depth. Thus unlikely to be 1st tier (13-15) of the grading for content.
            Dino\" post_id=\"1928991\" time=\"1565852701\" user_id=\"6726:
            [quote=chenlaoshi post_id=1928982 time=1565851544 user_id=162894]
            Very hard for me to comment as I'm not sure how her classmate responded to those questions and if questions like 为什么 is also counted in that 13 questions (how did she keep track of that number in the first place :p). >_<

            I would guess that it's either her answers are all very short and lack depth/content or she was going out of point (maybe misunderstanding the questions)
            xie xie chenlaoshi....... so normally, number of qns that the teachers will ask to be considered to have performed ok is ard how many? 4, 5, 6 or ?

            The list of questions provided to invigilators contain 3 main + 2 to 3 additional ones.

            I wouldn't say it's dependent on the number of questions that \"had to be\" asked but more of how the students responded to the questions.

            For the 15 marks related to content, to achieve 13-15, the rubrics state that the student:
            •\t需要极少的引导 (i.e. don't need further prompting/questions in addition to the 3 main + 1 转向)
            •\t能够做出全面的回应和充分地扩展个人看法
            •\t能够参与对话和持续地交流
            dylanmummy2003\" post_id=\"1928992\" time=\"1565852705\" user_id=\"116705:
            chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1928982\" time=\"1565851544\" user_id=\"162894:

            Very hard for me to comment as I'm not sure how her classmate responded to those questions and if questions like 为什么 is also counted in that 13 questions (how did she keep track of that number in the first place :p). >_<

            I would guess that it's either her answers are all very short and lack depth/content or she was going out of point (maybe misunderstanding the questions)

            thank you chenlaoshi!
            hope her classmate will put it past her and concentrate on tmr's english oral.
            now i worry if my gal provided her 'answer' correctly. when she was ask what other interesting method she has encountered. she say e-learning. cos sometimes in school, the teachers are too busy to attend to their questions, but via e-learning/online, the teachers do replies to their queries. 😓 😓 😓
            like :offtopic: liao.... she also says she like when the teachers bring them outdoor to conduct lessons, especially visiting garden, as she can learn more about different plants/flowers.

            Yes, make good use of today's experience to handle tomorrow's oral.

            Yup, if you look at my earlier posts, e learning, learning journey, outdoor journey all acceptable. although how well the elaboration (logical, in depth - and in this case, covering the various advantages) goes will decide how well the students fare.
            MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1928997\" time=\"1565853008\" user_id=\"43981:
            Yes. Other includes going to library, going online (surfing the internet, watching videos) and doing project work

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            • sembgalS Offline
              sembgal
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              Personally, I feel that today’s Chinese oral topic’s questions are very open-ended and allows pupils to 自由发挥。


              Day 1 Chinese Oral

              Q1 你喜欢录像中的学习方式吗?为什么?

              Q3 除了课堂学习,你还可以做什么来取得新知识?

              Q2 你有上过好玩有趣的课吗?

              The common psle Chinese oral topics like 保护环境清洁、种族和谐、体育活动、乐于助人、垃圾分类、不轻易放弃、勇敢正直,家庭和谐、自理能力、烤肉会that were so called “spot the questions and memorise answers did not appear today.

              Most likely for tomorrow, it will be one of those above-mentioned topics. Good luck !

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              • chenlaoshiC Offline
                chenlaoshi
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                phtthp\" post_id=\"1929103\" time=\"1565867562\" user_id=\"35251:

                hi chen lao shi,

                is today CL topic considered hard ?

                tomorrow CL topic, will it be harder or easier, based on today topic, because someone earlier commented, \"one day easy, next day hard\" ?

                today EL topic (Library) is considered ... easy
                The one day/year easy one day/year difficult saying is a myth in my opinion - at least for CL (can have a look at the past year papers and topics).

                Instead, it’s usually like one day school related topic, one day public places related for the old picture oral conversation and for the new video format, the 3 major categories are
                - Moral values(见义勇为、诚实etc)
                - School life (课外活动、校内庆典etc)
                - Social issues (节省资源、保护环境etc)

                As for whether this year’s Day 1 CL topic is tough, I would say it’s not. I believe most students/parents think so because the topic is not the ones that are commonly practiced for (ie moral values)

                Reasons why I think this topic should be considered manageable:
                1. The students have first hand experience with regard to the different types of learnings
                2. This topic does not involve difficult words/phrases (nouns/verbs) unlike say environment friendly issue which may involve terms like global warming, biodegradable, styrofoam etc.

                With the change in format of oral conversation from picture to video, the focus is shifted towards critical thinking, analysis and expressing of views - from the detailed narration and ‘stereotype’ opinions regarding the rights and wrongs of each action.

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                • P Offline
                  patlsy79
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                  Dont scare me with 1 day easier 1 day tough myth le…then one of my twins will be sad cos today her CL considered tough, tmrw her EL also tough cos today was easier…her sis is lucky then 😛

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                  • sembgalS Offline
                    sembgal
                    last edited by

                    [/b]

                    chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1929129\" time=\"1565877710\" user_id=\"162894:

                    phtthp\" post_id=\"1929103\" time=\"1565867562\" user_id=\"35251:

                    hi chen lao shi,

                    is today CL topic considered hard ?

                    tomorrow CL topic, will it be harder or easier, based on today topic, because someone earlier commented, \"one day easy, next day hard\" ?

                    today EL topic (Library) is considered ... easy

                    The one day/year easy one day/year difficult saying is a myth in my opinion - at least for CL (can have a look at the past year papers and topics).

                    Instead, it’s usually like one day school related topic, one day public places related for the old picture oral conversation and for the new video format, the 3 major categories are
                    - Moral values(见义勇为、诚实etc)
                    - School life (课外活动、校内庆典etc)
                    - Social issues (节省资源、保护环境etc)

                    As for whether this year’s Day 1 CL topic is tough, I would say it’s not. I believe most students/parents think so because the topic is not the ones that are commonly practiced for (ie moral values)

                    Reasons why I think this topic should be considered manageable:
                    1. The students have first hand experience with regard to the different types of learnings
                    2. This topic does not involve difficult words/phrases (nouns/verbs) unlike say environment friendly issue which may involve terms like global warming, biodegradable, styrofoam etc.

                    With the change in format of oral conversation from picture to video, the focus is shifted towards critical thinking, analysis and expressing of views - from the detailed narration and ‘stereotype’ opinions regarding the rights and wrongs of each action.

                    I agree with your reasons !

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                    • chenlaoshiC Offline
                      chenlaoshi
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                      dylanmummy2003\" post_id=\"1928998\" time=\"1565853063\" user_id=\"116705:
                      转向问题 are asked based on student's response to original question and moves away from what the original question was discussing about.

                      For example, original question was \"除了课堂学习,你还可以做什么来取得新知识\" and student listed 上网搜索、阅读资料. 转向问题 can be 你认为通过网络学习应该注意些什么? or 你会如何确保网络学习的内容是恰当/的?
                      FHP\" post_id=\"1929117\" time=\"1565873786\" user_id=\"27202:[quote=FHP post_id=1929117 time=1565873786 user_id=27202]Thanks Chen Laoshi
                      My son said he got 6 questions in total. 1 转向题 per main question not 6 转向题 . Still got chance to get first tier?
                      I see, FHP. Then yes, still have chance. 转向问题 are meant to this aspect of the marking rubric: 能够参与对话和持续地交流. Chances are the examiners wanted to decide between awarding the higher or lower end of a particular tier or deciding between one tier and another.

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                      • temjin68T Offline
                        temjin68
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                        Hello Chenlaoshi

                        I am trying to look for your post regarding e-learning, learning journey but not able to find it.
                        Will you be able to advise again? Thank you so much.

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