2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[AAHL]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1949720\" time=\"1574761104\" user_id=\"35251:

my friend's daughter in IP3 @Dunman High, said got so many projects to do, said past mid-night then sleep

Every IP school IP curriculum is different, cannot compare

That is not the case for my friend’s daughter. She is enjoying the school life there with great teachers, score well consistently and usually sleep before 10.30pm. Think different kids have varying coping abilities.

[phtthp]

AAHL\" post_id=\"1949828\" time=\"1574788495\" user_id=\"176898:

phtthp\" post_id=\"1949720\" time=\"1574761104\" user_id=\"35251:

my friend's daughter in IP3 @Dunman High, said got so many projects to do, said past mid-night then sleep

Every IP school IP curriculum is different, cannot compare

That is not the case for my friend’s daughter. She is enjoying the school life there with great teachers, score well consistently and usually sleep before 10.30pm. Think different kids have varying coping abilities.

Your friend's daughter also at level IP3, or junior level ?

[phtthp]

jckk\" post_id=\"1949822\" time=\"1574781991\" user_id=\"182544:

any comments about bedok view. is it an old building school? school discipline?

Bedok View offered Higher Chinese, bec not all Sec schools offer HCL

[nite]

Actual cut-off for ESIS scholarship is 261. No ifs and buts. Based on both Singaporean and non-Singaporean students. Works out to top ~2-2.5% of cohort (+/-).


You get scholarship if you are Singaporean, get >=261 and get into an IS school (IP or OP).
As for derivation, it's based on top 1/3 of eligible students to all IS schools (8 IS + NUSH, SST, SOTA, SSS).

I don't know the total number of available IS places (anyone?). Else can find total number of students eligible for IS. Also, we wouldn't know how many Singaporean students got it.

Idea is if we know the cut offs for the top 2% and 10% of cohort, we generally know how the cohort did and how to base our top 3 choices on.

MOE doesn't reveal these numbers. But, we can work backwards based on some assumptions.

Stevenlsf\" post_id=\"1949817\" time=\"1574780302\" user_id=\"69371:

nite\" post_id=\"1949712\" time=\"1574759650\" user_id=\"64247:

261 is derived based on the whole cohort eligible for IS based on earlier response.

Only Singaporean students in this band are eligible for ESIS scholarship if they enter IS.

Your Q earlier was on cutoff. And yes, student admitted to OP track are eligible as well as long as they fit the criteria and enter IS.

[quote=Serendipity post_id=1949702 time=1574758260 user_id=9658]

Thanks... I just wonder how 261 is derived. Is my understanding correct? If there are X number of places in the independent IP schools, the top X number of Singaporean students with the highest T-scores will be eligible for ESIS. Correct?

so can I say 261 is just a reference, the actual cut off could be lower(excluding those non-Singaporean, those who entering non-IP school)?[/quote]

[Beryeo]

Hi nite


How u arrive at the top 2.5% for ESIS cutoff?

[lebonchi]

Chewsy\" post_id=\"1949773\" time=\"1574771656\" user_id=\"177963:

Hi all,

Do I need to go in S1 Posting to confirm the school if already has a CO through DSA?
Thanks!

Was called up by the primary school to go through the posting exercise too....just go in and select do not wish third language...

[Buddy775]

Hi, need help.

I’m confused with the choice placements. Understand that if 2 kids have the same Tscore and are fighting for the last vacancy, it doesn’t matter if first kid has chosen school A as the 2nd choice or the other kid has chosen the same school as the 3rd choice. They would be allocated either by citizenship or by balloting.

In this case, does it mean it doesn’t matter how we arrange our choices (assuming score is 221), for eg :

1. School 1, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
2. School 2, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
3. School 3, COP 220 (has vacancy)
4. School 4, COP 221 (has vacancy)

Will the kid be allocated school 4 first even if we put school 3 as 3rd choice?

Appreciate your advice.

[Serendipity]

Buddy775\" post_id=\"1949855\" time=\"1574813179\" user_id=\"92891:

Hi, need help.
I'm confused with the choice placements. Understand that if 2 kids have the same Tscore and are fighting for the last vacancy, it doesn't matter if first kid has chosen school A as the 2nd choice or the other kid has chosen the same school as the 3rd choice. They would be allocated either by citizenship or by balloting.

In this case, does it mean it doesn't matter how we arrange our choices (assuming score is 221), for eg :

1. School 1, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
2. School 2, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
3. School 3, COP 220 (has vacancy)
4. School 4, COP 221 (has vacancy)

Will the kid be allocated school 4 first even if we put school 3 as 3rd choice?

Appreciate your advice.

If the kid meets COP of School 3 and there are vacancies, he/she will be allocated School 3. Only if there are no vacancies in School 3 will they look at School 4.

[Timmy21]

Buddy775\" post_id=\"1949855\" time=\"1574813179\" user_id=\"92891:

Hi, need help.
I'm confused with the choice placements. Understand that if 2 kids have the same Tscore and are fighting for the last vacancy, it doesn't matter if first kid has chosen school A as the 2nd choice or the other kid has chosen the same school as the 3rd choice. They would be allocated either by citizenship or by balloting.

In this case, does it mean it doesn't matter how we arrange our choices (assuming score is 221), for eg :

1. School 1, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
2. School 2, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
3. School 3, COP 220 (has vacancy)
4. School 4, COP 221 (has vacancy)

Will the kid be allocated school 4 first even if we put school 3 as 3rd choice?

Appreciate your advice.

The algorithm for this might go like:
For Applicant X, Check if School n (n being the nth ordered choice of X) has vacancy --> No --> Check if School n+1 has vacancy --> Yes --> Check if it is the last vacancy
If it is not the last vacancy --> post X to School n+1
If it is the last vacancy --> put X on hold and check if Applicant X+1 has the same rounded T-score as X
If yes --> check if Applicant X+2 has the same rounded T-score as X+1, and so on
Next, check citizenship status of Applicants X, X+1, .... etc
Final step --> conduct computerised ballot for Applicants with SG citizenship status --> post the balloted Applicant to School n+1 --> current year COP of School n+1 has been determined and School n+1 exits from posting exercise

[Buddy775]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1949866\" time=\"1574814598\" user_id=\"122721:

Buddy775\" post_id=\"1949855\" time=\"1574813179\" user_id=\"92891:

Hi, need help.
I'm confused with the choice placements. Understand that if 2 kids have the same Tscore and are fighting for the last vacancy, it doesn't matter if first kid has chosen school A as the 2nd choice or the other kid has chosen the same school as the 3rd choice. They would be allocated either by citizenship or by balloting.

In this case, does it mean it doesn't matter how we arrange our choices (assuming score is 221), for eg :

1. School 1, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
2. School 2, COP 222 (no vacancy, not allocated)
3. School 3, COP 220 (has vacancy)
4. School 4, COP 221 (has vacancy)

Will the kid be allocated school 4 first even if we put school 3 as 3rd choice?

Appreciate your advice.

The algorithm for this might go like:
For Applicant X, Check if School n (n being the nth ordered choice of X) has vacancy --> No --> Check if School n+1 has vacancy --> Yes --> Check if it is the last vacancy
If it is not the last vacancy --> post X to School n+1
If it is the last vacancy --> put X on hold and check if Applicant X+1 has the same rounded T-score as X
If yes --> check if Applicant X+2 has the same rounded T-score as X+1, and so on
Next, check citizenship status of Applicants X, X+1, .... etc
Final step --> conduct computerised ballot for Applicants with SG citizenship status --> post the balloted Applicant to School n+1 --> current year COP of School n+1 has been determined and School n+1 exits from posting exercise

:thankyou: Timmy21 & Serendipity for the fast response and the detailed comments. Understand it now. Daddy wanted to put the option like my eg. but my DD still insisted on her choice placements. We gave in, don't want to be blamed later :spank: