RI or HCI

[EthanEthan]

kabalevsky:

vk2010, really? ok, I wasn't aware of that. not in the papers?


ok, i just wanted to say some of my views on choosing schools, in order to have a balanced view. probably cos the last few posts were all about scholarships and the very last one happened to pick out from MOE website's info listing only the RI holders, so I felt it is not nice to omit all the other medal winners?

I'll unsubscribe myself from this topic from now. Cos I am not here to argue or side any school. I can see how strongly some feel about their particular schools here. Don't want to be hantam since I think I am the minority.

THanks for your reply. I'll be off to my other usual threads.

I think we have to understand that this is a free forum...forummers are free to air their views or post facts about anything provided it is not offensive.

All RI or HCI supporters are likewise welcome to do so. This is afterall a democratic country, isn't it

As parents, we are not daft, so to speak, we would also look into school environment, programs, cultures, apart from academic performanance.

Let me explain why academic perfomance is important.

Both RI and HCI takes only the creme of the crop. But why is RI producing 3x more President scholars than HCI this year and x times of scholarship holders and Olympaid medallists more than HCI? HCI seems only to have a Biology Olympaid medallist.

This will tell me how the school , teachers and its programs is value-adding to the ability of its cohort.

Remember the quality of intake is the same for both schools, but why the output differs so measurably ?

Being a parent, of course I will choose the more value-adding school.

[CayennePepper]

verykiasu2010:

... only one school keeps emphasising it at the open house year after year (hint : not RI)

RI has free advertisements about it mah, no need to emphasize! :rotflmao: I was just marvelling about the number of parents who fervently sing its praises even before their sons get in...

[verykiasu2010]

CayennePepper:

verykiasu2010:

... only one school keeps emphasising it at the open house year after year (hint : not RI)

RI has free advertisements about it mah, no need to emphasize! :rotflmao: I was just marvelling about the number of parents who fervently sing its praises even before their sons get in...

or even sing their praises even before their sons graduate :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[CayennePepper]

verykiasu2010:

CayennePepper:

RI has free advertisements about it mah, no need to emphasize! :rotflmao: I was just marvelling about the number of parents who fervently sing its praises even before their sons get in...

or even sing their praises even before their sons graduate :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Ah, but they will graduate and get the scholarships... of cos can sing

[Pen88n]

Though you may say that RI and HCI both take in creme of the crop, they are schools with distinctively different culture and maybe even teaching, coaching and learning style. The environment that suits one kid may not suit another, and as parents, we should advise kids based on their characteristics which school might suit them. Does it really matter how many president scholars or medalists the school produces? Majority of the kids in the school are not the president scholars or medalists. Unless of course your kid is of that calibre, then you might want to think deeper / consider this aspect. My take is still that the BEST school for the kid is the one that suits your kid, be it RI or HCI, choose the one you think fits better.

[iFirefly]

Pen88n:

Though you may say that RI and HCI both take in creme of the crop, they are schools with distinctively different culture and maybe even teaching, coaching and learning style. The environment that suits one kid may not suit another, and as parents, we should advise kids based on their characteristics which school might suit them. Does it really matter how many president scholars or medalists the school produces? Majority of the kids in the school are not the president scholars or medalists. Unless of course your kid is of that calibre, then you might want to think deeper / consider this aspect. My take is still that the BEST school for the kid is the one that suits your kid, be it RI or HCI, choose the one you think fits better.

:goodpost: agree with pen88n!
my dh was from RI while i was from HCI (HCJC to be exact, as HCI was a seperate school from HCJC, at my time). my DS has gotten a CO from RI but i'm still waiting eagerly for the dsa results from HCI. if DS is fortunate to get a CO from HCI as well, we will let him decide which school he wants to join ultimately. but as of now, DS has indicated, rather clearly & firmly, that his first choice will be RI, as RI has always been his dream school. :roll:

[EthanEthan]

Pen88n:

Does it really matter how many president scholars or medalists the school produces? Majority of the kids in the school are not the president scholars or medalists.

We are comparing RI to HCI, not some 3rd rate schools....of course then academic performance matters .

Students in both RI and HCI are creme of the crop, therefore they are potential schorship or Olympaid medal holders. Again we are not talking about lower ability children here.

The fact remains, given the input quality is the same, why does RI produces so much better output quality than HCI ?Doesn't this say about the school's ability to value-add ? Isn't that important for parents ???

[Concernedparents]

Pls do not only look at awards and scholarships. We also need to look at moral values and "streetsmartness".



Any comments on RI Pulau Tekong swimmer or Hwa Chong PSC Scholarship Bond Breaker cum National Service evader ?

[thsheng99]

CayennePepper:

verykiasu2010:

... only one school keeps emphasising it at the open house year after year (hint : not RI)

I was just marvelling about the number of parents who fervently sing its praises even before their sons get in...

I am indeed eyeing RI for my boy. I have done research on the school, attended its openhouse, check out its environment, talk to students/ex students of the school and whatever you can think off.

I have come to the conclusion that there is this \"X\" factor in the Raffles education that brings really out the potential of your child and made him to excel and do his best.

Maybe that's is what one of the forummer here is alluding to as \"value-add\" ?

[PiggyLalala]

EthanEthan:

Pen88n:

Does it really matter how many president scholars or medalists the school produces? Majority of the kids in the school are not the president scholars or medalists.

We are comparing RI to HCI, not some 3rd rate schools....of course then academic performance matters .

Students in both RI and HCI are creme of the crop, therefore they are potential schorship or Olympaid medal holders. Again we are not talking about lower ability children here.

The fact remains, given the input quality is the same, why does RI produces so much better output quality than HCI ?Doesn't this say about the school's ability to value-add ? Isn't that important for parents ???

I do not think that the input quality is exactly the same. For some unknown reasons, most of the Gep students ( if you consider them to be top of the crop ) still prefer RI to HCI. Also, I think the top PSLE scorers are also in RI. ( I maybe wrong. )

So in that case i do not think it is right to say RI add more values to the students than HCI. I would only say that both are good schools.