GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection
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baobei:
Yes, but all 9 GEP Centres will take the same GEP papers.Nebbermind:
Just to add on.
There are some kids who just love to learn new things...but not sit-down exam type. They can get multiple CO for DSA despite not doing particularly well in SA coz they brains contain plenty that is beyond the classroom.
This is where the problem comes in. Some feel that they could do better remaining in mainstream. Close one eye also get Band 1...work abit harder and get A*.
In GEP, you cannot close one eye...maybe OK for Common Tests but not so for SA. You must at least work abit harder coz getting 80+ is not as easy. So you have to really support and reassure your kid if she is easily affected by the less than stellar grades in GEP.
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FireflyMom:
I think this is part & parcel of what we need to go through in life, just that the kids may be going through earlier now. There are bound to have 'parasites' (sorry for the harsh word) or \"black sheep\" who will 'cling and feed on' others.
Nebbermind, I appreciate your prompt reply. :thankyou:Nebbermind:
For yr end kids...I guess they will somehow manage...with a little bit more help from us!
My personal take of GEP is that it is not about the outcome, the results....it's about the process. So for those who free-ride/freeload...they are just missing out...who eventually gets to experience the enriching process? And you bring it along to the next phase.
However, don't you think the above is a little Ah Q? I've heard this from numerous friends and when I tried to console myself, I made myself believe in this too. Frankly, how many parents here can say that they really do not care about the outcome, the results? Really? You don't care if your child failed his/her project because someone in the group didn't do his/her job? And how many parents can embrace this attitude : Come, let me do most of the work in the project while the rest can slack because I want to be the most enriched and I have 48 hours a day!
Just for discussion. No offence to anyone..
To say I'm not upset and don't care about the results, I will be 骗你又骗自己. In fact, I was so upset :mad: once that I had called up the \"black sheep\" myself, telling him off that he was putting my DS in a disadvantage by not playing his part in the project. But on the other hand, I take this as a life learning experience for my kids and I always tell my kids \"It's either you learn to speak up for yourself or you have to work around the problem'.
However, the approach also depends on the child himself and the teacher. My DS1 will always give the person a second chance and will only take the last resort to complain to the teacher and if he is not unsuccessful in getting the 'parasite' off his back, he will work around by not including that person in his team the next time. DS2, on the other hand, will definitely speak up for himself if he feels that he is short-changed, I take it as good & bad but as long as he can resolve the issue himself & not getting into trouble, I'm ok.
Hopefully the kids can learn from such experiences which can be useful next time when they are out in the working world which I believe it's definitely more complex than that. Just my 2 cents thoughts ...
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my ds SA2 score is so poor and i cannot understand how come he can pass the GEP screening test…
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gogoahead:
my ds SA2 score is so poor and i cannot understand how come he can pass the GEP screening test....
Mine underperformed in Maths too. We expected full score, but instead he only managed a low 90s due to carelessness and complacency.
Starting to wonder if I'm wrong to adopt a hands-off approach.
Is it possible for parents in GEP to be totally hands-off (and no enrichments/tuitions) if their children are enjoying the process but not scoring well like 70% and above? Won't the teachers have a word with the parents in such a scenario? -
shine:
shine:
Another thing that makes me think twice about going GEP. She has quite a solid base in terms of popularity (many want to be her friends) in her current school. She’s like basking and enjoying herself in the limelight. I’m not sure how is she going to face a totally new environment in a new school.
Oh, just to add. During the mid-year PTM, FT thanked me for supporting my child academically. I was like errr :oops: , paiseh… didn’t particularly do anything special with her. I told the FT that she’s naturally like that. The FT seemed surprised, and said in that case, I should reinforce her natural ability by doing more with her (actually I didn't really know what she meant. Is it give her trainings? enrichments?).
Anyway, makes me feel guilty lah. Am I a selfish mum who wants less stress and more time for myself, rather than providing enough experiences/trainings to broaden and deepen my child’s academic pursuit? So, I’m in dilemma. Am I depriving my child a so-called enriching experience academically if we decide not to go for GEP?
But then, I’m also concerned about her emotional development, as mentioned in my previous post! :scratchhead: :?:
Hey shine,
3 yrs ago, my son was given a big yellow envelop - a ticket to join GEP. We had to make a tough decision, but also a happy decision. Like your gal, my son was well settled into the school with many close friends and was told he would be given a leadership position the following year. After attending the GEP briefing, he was attracted by its curriculum but at the same time, he felt flexed taking it up becos he would have to leave familiar ground.
Eventually, we decided that he should stay put in the neighbourhood school. Apart from a different curriculum, we felt the school was providing enuff for my boy. Though I have to confess there are times when he felt a little stifled when some teachers won't entertain his questions or his alternative solutions, simply told him to just \"follow the model answers\". I feel to manage this, is a learning process itself.
He is indeed very happy in the school and is still suitably challenged - not only academically, but also in many other aspects - leadership, entrepreneurship, math olympiad/UNSW competitions, CCAs, hosting VIPs to the school, picking up Emceeing for major school events, running school open house, involved in buddy tutoring of academically weaker schoolmates, projects, etc.
Most importantly, being in a neighbourhood school, he has learnt how to get along with kids with different family background and learning the important words \"Humility\" and \"Compassion\".
The bottom line is, once the decision is made, do not waver. Move on and make the best out of your choice. There is no right or wrong. Either route u choose for your gal, i m sure it will be a rewarding and a gd learning experience.
Gd luck!
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breezy:
Thanks for sharing. It is good to hear from parents whose kids have opted out of GEP.
Hey shine,
3 yrs ago, my son was given a big yellow envelop - a ticket to join GEP. We had to make a tough decision, but also a happy decision. Like your gal, my son was well settled into the school with many close friends and was told he would be given a leadership position the following year. After attending the GEP briefing, he was attracted by its curriculum but at the same time, he felt flexed taking it up becos he would have to leave familiar ground.
Eventually, we decided that he should stay put in the neighbourhood school. Apart from a different curriculum, we felt the school was providing enuff for my boy. Though I have to confess there are times when he felt a little stifled when some teachers won't entertain his questions or his alternative solutions, simply told him to just \"follow the model answers\". I feel to manage this, is a learning process itself.
He is indeed very happy in the school and is still suitably challenged - not only academically, but also in many other aspects - leadership, entrepreneurship, math olympiad/UNSW competitions, CCAs, hosting VIPs to the school, picking up Emceeing for major school events, running school open house, involved in buddy tutoring of academically weaker schoolmates, projects, etc.
Most importantly, being in a neighbourhood school, he has learnt how to get along with kids with different family background and learning the important words \"Humility\" and \"Compassion\".
The bottom line is, once the decision is made, do not waver. Move on and make the best out of your choice. There is no right or wrong. Either route u choose for your gal, i m sure it will be a rewarding and a gd learning experience. Gd luck!
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I’m still waiting for my DS’s results in early Nov. Can anyone share their experiences of a GEPper with ADHD or ADD?
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I admire and salute parents who take their children’s interest into great consideration, when deciding if their child should give up the GEP route. Many parents wished their children can be in GEP, so that they can proudly ‘declare’ they have a gifted kid, but have not given serious thought about the child’s well being. So to parents who are so brave to give up the GEP route for your child, I admire your courage.
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Ikid:
I admire and salute parents who take their children's interest into great consideration, when deciding if their child should give up the GEP route. Many parents wished their children can be in GEP, so that they can proudly 'declare' they have a gifted kid, but have not given serious thought about the child's well being. So to parents who are so brave to give up the GEP route for your child, I admire your courage.
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chamonix:
The teachers will have a word with the parents during the PTM if the kid underperformed. If I am not mistaken, DS2 school, those with 3 subjects or more at baseline will need to meet up with the principal.gogoahead:
my ds SA2 score is so poor and i cannot understand how come he can pass the GEP screening test....
Mine underperformed in Maths too. We expected full score, but instead he only managed a low 90s due to carelessness and complacency.
Starting to wonder if I'm wrong to adopt a hands-off approach.
Is it possible for parents in GEP to be totally hands-off (and no enrichments/tuitions) if their children are enjoying the process but not scoring well like 70% and above? Won't the teachers have a word with the parents in such a scenario?
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