* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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EthanEthan:
I think the quality of student does make a big different in the performance of jc and seem like it is co-related to the PSLE T-score. The performance of RI/HCI is a very good example…DHS too..the better performance of VJC as compared to NJC may be also due to their bigger cohort of IP student??...with the strong feeder school of VS/Cedar, I can foresee VJC overtaking NJC…I guess in no time (a few years) EJC will also be among the top JCs. There is a reason why more and more JC is taking on the IP route.
Somebody mentioned in a previous post that the top 5 JCs are all IP JCs. Is there a reason for this ? The reason why these JCs are top were because of the quality of their cohort, which was mainly from their respective top IP secondary schools. If these students were not performing at their potential of being PSLE top scorers previously, I am sure the rankings of these IP JCs would have tanked big time.
Similarly, EJC being an IP college will also be able to attain great heights since their cohort is equally competent from 3 top IP secondary schools as well.
On a side note, have you ever wonder why the non-IP JCs ( including NYJC), despite their commendable efforts, has not make the top echelon?
That’s why I say the achievement of NYJC is remarkable considering they only take in O level students…however my question is it due to the A level results achieved or just perception (since we do not have the detail data to have a holistic comparison) … -
stetan:
True. An analogy is like President Trump taking over President Obama. The whole scenario changes......obviously trump do not agree with many things Obama had implemented. The chief commanding officer, in this case the principal sets the tone for the school
My point is that Mr Kwek played an important pivotal role. If not , given NYJC long history, why did it only gain prominence when Mr Kwek was principal? Time will tell if NYJC can have continued sustained performance under the new principal, who surely have his own views ( that may be different from Mr Kwek's) on how he wants to manage the JC. Hopefully it will not be like last year premier league champion Lecister who this year is languishing at the bottom of the table.. Lecister glory was indeed shortlived.
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UBKmom
I wrote about the JC's meteoric rise some time back.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=68179&p=1685741&hilit=Mindays#p1685741
I attributed to:
1. Lack of choices in Central planning zone for those in the 5-7pt bracket.
2. Availability of niche prog like Chinese Language elective prog in JCs within this vicinity
Someone added 3. Accessibility of JC (right beside Lor Chuan mrt)
These factors probably compelled some past and present Central district's top school students in that 5-7 pt bracket (meaning they couldn't make it to RI @BISHAN) to pick NYJC or even AJC.
The above choice pattern may persist for 2 more years, as EJC is at Mt Sinai till end 2019. Therefore, some 5-7 pointers from the Central area may still opt for NYJC out of sheer convenience.
Having said that, there will still be others who don't mind the longer commute, even though NYJC is right at their doorstep. For one, the 3 feeder schools' own O level track students (many of whom have been with their full schools since P1) may ditch an 'alien' JC like NYJC, effective 2017, so as to be with their peers (incl. their beloved bros and sis from the IP TRACK). I won't be surprised the 3 Ps have internally marketed EJ to their flock esp the top o level classes.
OT:
Quite frankly, if I were a 6-pointer from SNGS, live in Amk, and cannot make it to RI or HCI, why would I want to go to NYJC which attracts a motley crew of top kids from neighbourhood sec schools and CCHM/CCHY (whose express COPs are lower than SNGS'). Of course I will follow my IP sisters for solidarity's sake. After all I hv gone thru thick n thin with them via my CCA or since P1 (as mentioned, all 3 feeder schools are FULL schools with a rich heritage, strong bond and powerful alumni). We share the same background. Isn't it cosier to flock with the same feathers and do PW with the 'kim geks', 'ladies' and 'gentlemen'? Haha.
There're certain unquantifiable, intangible factors that come into play when pp select schools, if given a situation where 2 or 3 JCs' COPs are comparable. :evil:
Well anyway it is always good to have more choices in the same district. Diff JCs cater to diff pp. IPJCs are not exactly the same as normal govt JCs. They come populated with a large well-primed continent of early bloomers, self-driven high achievers from day 1 of yr 5. The remaining seats are for newbies who relish this sort of competitive and somewhat cliquish environment. -
Well said…however OTOT…I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house’s doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
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Imp75:
Well said....however OTOT...I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house's doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
The oldest JC vs the newest JC. -
I might just do the same for my younger ones. This parent does have a point.
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jtoh:
Its indeed EJC's honour to be compared with NJC, one of the Top 5 JCs in SG. Very few JCs can even come close to be compared with. NJC.. :evil:Imp75:
Well said....however OTOT...I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house's doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
The oldest JC vs the newest JC. -
Imp75:
Well said....however OTOT...I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house's doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
For one that chose NJ over EJ, I am sure there will be similarly be a corressponding one that chose EJ over NJ
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jtoh:
Yes. A belated player.Imp75:
Well said....however OTOT...I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house's doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
The oldest JC vs the newest JC.
Many SCGS pp living in Bt Timah tend to gravitate towards NJC too if they do not qualify for HCI or RI or dislike doing IB
Well, as mentioned, u have all kinds of pull n push factors....some parents are not alumni so allegiance is zilch or lukewarm, or graduated with poor results from their former schools and want nothing to do with it, or had studied at NJC so want dc to go there as well...
Then again, I hv friends who are die-hard supporters of their alma mater (these 3 I mean). They had encouraged their kids to stick to this IP school, enjoy the learning journey and build lifelong friendships with the 'same feathers', even though they had decisively qualified for RI straight after PSLE. The parents were former RJCians themselves!
It will take a few years for the results and ranking to stabilise. Hopefully the pioneers don't play too much after the JAE Orientation. Must be like stetan. No seniors to help but still passed with flying colours.
Actually during my time we didnt tap on seniors either! :roll:
Btw shouldn't discuss about EJ in NYJC thread. They are of a different league. -
Imp75:
Well said....however OTOT...I have seen parents who chose NJC over SNGS although the latter is just at the house's doorstep. The parent has no confidence in the new EJC.
Before EJC even come into existence, for O level students from the 3 popular Secondary Full schools who did not make it to RI / Hwa Chong JC via Cut-off-point, National Junior College is often the next popular destination target they head for.
However, with EJC first batch of A level students due to graduate next year, people will start comparing 2018 A level results of EJC (newest JC) vs. National JC (one of the oldest JCs), and also vs. Victoria JC. The pioneering batch (born 2000) are the dragonites, the first batch to set the track record, the platform stage for subsequent future generation(s). Is going to be exciting ! The dragons & the phoneix, are all geared up, motivated to prove themselves.
If 2018 A level results from EJC prove to be close to or on par with that of NJC, confidence will soar !
EJC will become highly sought after, in the years to come.
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