2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take

[anxious]

markfch:

alng:

24 have registered at nanhua this morning. The school refuses to disclose the number by distance.

Imho I feel that all schs should disclose the figures by distance so that PVs can mentally prepare to activate their plan B if necessary.

I think they do and will advise accordingly towards the end of the registration process, e.g. when registered > vacancies

In the initial part, they may not be able to forecast.

Some parents do wait til towards the end of the registration day before applying.

[Edureach]

Parents need not fret. If your kids show academic brillance in Pri 1, can also appy to transfer out to a renown school at the end of next year.

[Pen88n]

WCW:

check w the experts here...

if i fail the ballot at P2B, i will re-register at P2C right?
not P2C supp right?

Yes can register at P2C again. By then, it is purely by distance. So, if your P2B is under 1km ballot unsuccessful, you can join the P2C under 1km ballot again (but this time note that there may be more applicants within 1km).

[jtoh]

WCW:

check w the experts here...

if i fail the ballot at P2B, i will re-register at P2C right?
not P2C supp right?

Yes. 2C.

[smurf]

Edureach:

Parents need not fret. If your kids show academic brillance in Pri 1, can also appy to transfer out to a renown school at the end of next year.

You must see if there is vacancy at the popular sch.

[markfch]

g2m6:

So why bother opening up new schools with a brand new name that no one wants to register when you can let (or force) schools that consistently fail to meet demand annually eg Raffles Girls (82 left after P2A2) or Anderson Primary (64 left after P2A2) to open up another campus. This school will follow the same system as the original one and some of the senior teachers and staff can be transferred over to the new school and replicate the successful model.

I'll like to present your logic with an illustration.

Every yr thousands of applicants get rejected by NUS. By your logic, if we open up 10 NUS instead of the one, then does that mean that 4 yrs down the road, we won't need anymore FTs?

Is it really that simple?

[RRMummy]

markfch:

You spoke my mind. One more thing, even within the ACS family, I was told that ACSJ & ACSP do have a noticeable gap in standard. We're only talking about 2 schs, and there is already a gap.

Goes to show that you can clone the system (to a certain extent), but you can never clone the people aka teaching staff, students, parents & (tutors)?

:hi5: YES, CHIJ is also the other one that Chief quoted.

Say if Frontier Primary now is given the name Nanyang, I still doubt that it will get the same HEAT as Nanyang. Probably, not until the first 6 years (until the first few batches of PSLE students) are out, would parents gradually decide if they would put their kids (read be convinced and trust) in the Nanyang II or III or IV branch..

I remember our dear P6 teacher's advice decades ago when some were disappointed about our Secondary School posting. \"It is not the name of the school that makes a school. It is each and everyone of you. And with your loving teachers and Principal you can make the next XXX Secondary School. You have made us proud here and we all truly believe that no matter where you go, you will make your new school proud too!\" :love:

Cheers to you dear Teacher XXX. We did! :love:

[g2m6]

markfch:

g2m6:

So why bother opening up new schools with a brand new name that no one wants to register when you can let (or force) schools that consistently fail to meet demand annually eg Raffles Girls (82 left after P2A2) or Anderson Primary (64 left after P2A2) to open up another campus. This school will follow the same system as the original one and some of the senior teachers and staff can be transferred over to the new school and replicate the successful model.

I'll like to present your logic with an illustration.

Every yr thousands of applicants get rejected by NUS. By your logic, if we open up 10 NUS instead of the one, then does that mean that 4 yrs down the road, we won't need anymore FTs?

Is it really that simple?

sorrie but i dun quite get yr illustration. wat i m saying is instead of MOE opening a brand new school eg Frontier Primary, why dun they replicate schools that are always short of vacancies. Instead of trying to start from scratch building up another RGPS or Anderson, which is like trying to reinvent the wheel every time, why not just try to adopt the best practices of RGPS, Anderson, ACPS etc. They can call it eg Anderson AMK, Anderson Jurong etc.

[LOLMum]

g2m6:

sorrie but i dun quite get yr illustration. wat i m saying is instead of MOE opening a brand new school eg Frontier Primary, why dun they replicate schools that are always short of vacancies. Instead of trying to start from scratch building up another RGPS or Anderson, which is like trying to reinvent the wheel every time, why not just try to adopt the best practices of RGPS, Anderson, ACPS etc. They can call it eg Anderson AMK, Anderson Jurong etc.

so basically what you want is just the name, must be a branded name like acs, rgps, mgs, scgs etc and not any other.

[Khordan]

zhuangzi:

Celyw:

1) the ex students past psle results contributed to the \"popularity\" of the what the school is having now.
2) the ex students have their fair share of donation and flag days for their school
3) the ex students have done their duties to keep the school clean and neat by doing gardening, picking up litters, etc

They are not free riders as what you claimed. But they are in a position where you does not enjoy hence you are not happy.

The 3 points you brought up are rather weak, but I'm not here to start an argument.

Yes, I may not be in position where I'm an Alumni, but I've never disagree that Alumni should have preference. As long as they pay the fee and actively participate in the building of their ex school future, they deserve every rights to be in P2A1. Those who don't still get some advantage over the others by being able to enrol in P2B, instead of P2A2. Think about those PV who had put in all the hours, and those parents from less fortunate background who can't afford the time off for PV, you are indeed very privilege to be in P2B already! All in all, what I am proposing is the elimination of P2A2.

Put it this way. When I entered my Primary School, it was a truly 'neighbourhood' school. It was named after the road where the school was situated. If the school had 'maintained' that same standard, it will be one of those schools taking in students at Phase 3. It was definitely NOT 'branded' in any shape or form, nor popular with anyone who stayed outside of walking distance.

20 years later, it is considered one of the top schools in Singapore. When I registered during 2A2, I was told old boys & girls were coming in from all over Singapore to register.

While I'm sure the teachers and administrators had played their part, who do you think took the PSLE, got the grades that are being compared and analysed in forums such as this? People think my school is great because of the results that me & my fellow alumni achieved. So, yes, I do think all alumni do deserve that recognition and priority.

BTW, I disagree with the priority for those who joined the alumni association mainly because there is a cost attached. In some cases, this is as high as $1000. Then is it fair to those from lower income family?

g2m6:

So why bother opening up new schools with a brand new name that no one wants to register when you can let (or force) schools that consistently fail to meet demand annually eg Raffles Girls (82 left after P2A2) or Anderson Primary (64 left after P2A2) to open up another campus. This school will follow the same system as the original one and some of the senior teachers and staff can be transferred over to the new school and replicate the successful model.

No danger of cookie cutter because we do not eliminate all schools but just let those which always fail to meet demand increase their intake.

Because parents are not going to 'fall' for that one either. Those with the option are still going to go for the 'Main' school because they assume that the 'Branch' is not as good. Just look at the disparity in registration numbers for the two ACS schools.