DSA - RI / HCI confirmed
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father_of_3:
That could be a reason. Was your son offered a place in RI and NUSH?My son has SMOP platinum award but wasn't offered by HCI. He is in waitlist2. Think the reason may due to dropping of HCL.
My colleague told me that his son's classmate from mainstream has SMOP silver but has HCL was offered by HCI. -
Hi Father_of_3, your son got HCI waitlist 2, may I know if he has been called for a briefing by HCI. Thanks! Good Luck!
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father_of_3:
I don't think HCL is the only reason. Friend of son with platinum who takes HCL did not even get a waiting place from HCIMy son has SMOP platinum award but wasn't offered by HCI. He is in waitlist2. Think the reason may due to dropping of HCL.
My colleague told me that his son's classmate from mainstream has SMOP silver but has HCL was offered by HCI. -
bocmark:
Was he shortlisted for the DSA test and interview? Guess the GAT/Eng/CL test during DSA are important factors.
I don't think HCL is the only reason. Friend of son with platinum who takes HCL did not even get a waiting place from HCIfather_of_3:
My son has SMOP platinum award but wasn't offered by HCI. He is in waitlist2. Think the reason may due to dropping of HCL.
My colleague told me that his son's classmate from mainstream has SMOP silver but has HCL was offered by HCI. -
father_of_3:
Hi Father_of_3, your son got HCI waitlist 2, may I know if he has been called for a briefing by HCI. Thanks! Good Luck!My son has SMOP platinum award but wasn't offered by HCI. He is in waitlist2. Think the reason may due to dropping of HCL.
My colleague told me that his son's classmate from mainstream has SMOP silver but has HCL was offered by HCI. -
From the above discussion, I realised that many parents are placing the success of DSA based on a student's achievement in maths competitions or school's results. I observed last year DSA experience among my son's peers and other school's students both from GEP and mainstreams and found that there are numerous factors that may affect a student's DSA Confirmed, Waitlist and Rejection outcome.
These are:
1) Year 4, 5 and 6 (SA1) results
- Some schools focus only on P6 results (eg at least 80% average for GEP applicant to RI or they have to sit for GAT)
- Some schools (eg NUSH look at Maths and Science results over 3 years)
- Generally, if a student result ranges between 70 to 80% for Year 4 and 5 and above 80% in Year 6, chances of success is higher but not 100%)
2) Other achievements
- All maths competitions including NMOZ, RI Maths, SMOPS, Gauss, Australian Maths Competition and American Maths Competition
- ICAS or NSW performance in all subjects
- other English, Science, Chinese competition etc.
- CCA achievement (some schools looks at a student's academic and CCA performance at the same level)
- Leaderships skills etc
3) Performance in DSA tests
- Eg, HCI request all applicants (GEP and Mainstreams) to take written tests. These tests may aim to reveal the students' personality, confidence level and their inner thoughts or ambitions.
- RGS, NUSH, NJC etc also look specifically at the applicants' test performance
4) Interviews
- Peformance by applicants during interview is very important
- A very high achiever GEP student was rejected by HCI due to his performance in interview (he related his responses to the interviewers' questions and it was deemed by many as arrogance and lack of integrity and humility)
- Another student who show lack of interest in the school he is applying during interview was only given a waitlist (although this may not be the main reason)
I believe there are a combination of factors or criteria schools used to decide which students are given the confirmed, waitlist or rejection status. In addition, each year the schools may change their criteria based on their mission, new policy or change of focus. It is very difficult for us parents to try to second guess or strongly feel who are the worthy students who should (by right) secure a confirmed placing.
I implore parents not to place too much emphasis on DSA performance and in the process may put too much stress on their children. Sometimes, the unnecessary stress may cause more damage in terms of emotional well being especially when a student has high expectation of his/her success and unable to take failures. My experience on my children's DSA, past and current performance, their peers' behaviour (a couple very high achiever developed depression) taught me not to place too high expectation on them and instead focus on their continuous learning and give full support to their goals (be it academic or other interest like my kids who started picking up drumming and guitar). My wish is to ensure they pick up good life skills as they grow and my emphasis will be on character development. These are far more important than just pure academic achievement as they will go far in their future if they can manage their life well.
All the best to the P6 and the many hardworking parents as well!!!!!! :xedfingers: -
Merlion:
Thank for your advices.Your friend's son is weak in both languages. 85% for GEP maths can be considered good, 78% for GEP science can be considered average. If he can pull his score for english to 75% and chinese to 70%, I think he will be ok. He is in P5 this year, so still got time to catch up.
I don't think your friend's son can maintain the GEP status with this kind of result. If you can not even maintain the GEP status, it will be hard for RI or HCI to accept you as they might not even see you as GEP student.
I have shared all of yours comment to my friend. Interestingly, my friend told me his said his son classmate most of them are weak in Languages, at least 15 of them require remedy classes, most of them score below 70%. Wow, I shocked too!
I realised this yr P5 mainstream is also quite weak in Languages, especially the Chi, many of them HATE Chi, reluntant to learn.
My friend boy is from a SAP school
Everyone would like to comment and share this point.
I told my friend relax take it easy, study is not the only matter in life.
Thank U! -
[quote]I implore parents not to place too much emphasis on DSA performance and in the process may put too much stress on their children. Sometimes, the unnecessary stress may cause more damage in terms of emotional well being especially when a student has high expectation of his/her success and unable to take failures. My experience on my children's DSA, past and current performance, their peers' behaviour (a couple very high achiever developed depression) taught me not to place too high expectation on them and instead focus on their continuous learning and give full support to their goals (be it academic or other interest like my kids who started picking up drumming and guitar). My wish is to ensure they pick up good life skills as they grow and my emphasis will be on character development. These are far more important than just pure academic achievement as they will go far in their future if they can manage their life well.
[/quote]Thanks, Fluffy, for the sharing. These are my sentiments exactly.
I remember quite a number of my son's classmates did not get their choice school via DSA. In the end, they still get there via their PSLE results. In fact, a few were rejected by NJC, ACS(I), NUSH, RV but their final PSLE results landed them in RGS, RI and HCI instead.
Take the DSA exercise as an exposure or learning experience for the child. I hope the child's esteem is not just based on academic achievement alone. That will be real sad, indeed.
Celebrate effort instead. :celebrate:
That's what we did. Immediately after the PSLE oral, my hubby and I dated our daughter for a sushi meal and during the meal, nothing about the oral topics was discussed. :lol: -
csc:
I agree totally that DSA is not everything. My child wasn't successful in DSA - he was dealt with a hard blow. But it is important that we must believe in our child and when we do so, our child can feel it. That will boost their morale and they will do well :). Am confident of that... maintain GEP status or not? to me it isnt impt, what i want is my child to grow up well and be happy - as long as he has done his bestThanks, Fluffy, for the sharing. These are my sentiments exactly.
I remember quite a number of my son's classmates did not get their choice school via DSA. In the end, they still get there via their PSLE results. In fact, a few were rejected by NJC, ACS(I), NUSH, RV but their final PSLE results landed them in RGS, RI and HCI instead.
Take the DSA exercise as an exposure or learning experience for the child. I hope the child's esteem is not just based on academic achievement alone. That will be real sad, indeed.
Celebrate effort instead. :celebrate:
That's what we did. Immediately after the PSLE oral, my hubby and I dated our daughter for a sushi meal and during the meal, nothing about the oral topics was discussed. :lol: -
Who got confirmed letter : congrate ! jia-you
Who got wait list letter : be patient, jia-you jia-you
who got rejected letter : don give up, jia-you, jia-you zai jia-you
The door still open !
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