MOE to stop publishing names of top students?

[pirate]

Melodies:

I am quoting an example (The young man with 4 distinctions n many other attributes ) that I know. He is from middle income without tuition n with all the non-academics activities that all done in school. No external helps at all.

I know. I am just being notti here. :evil:
[quote]They are still possible to achieve yesteryear n now but I am not sure if it is still possible tomorrow.[/quote]Honestly, I don't see what has changed so much with our educational system that it is no longer possible.

[sinoboy]

pirate:

CayennePepper:

[quote=\"cherryc\"]


... in law school or medicine faculty , you can't really differentiate who are from GEP according to my friends who are top lawyers, doctors or NUS lecturers in medicine faculty (MOE can give us more info on this) .

Nobody cares about non-GEP/GEP background by the time one is in college.
I don't have statistics to back me up, but I spent years, on and off, at one of these faculties and I interacted with a great number of undergraduates. Quite simply, the issue never arose. If you were accepted into these faculties, intellect is most assuredly not the determining factor!

...says the faculties (in Singapore) who never admit any student with 3B.

The reason why non-GEP/GEP background never crop up is that it is obsolete information by the time they are in the faculties.[/quote]Perhaps it's because the GEP ones are on scholarship and mostly in overseas uni?

[Melodies]

pirate:

Melodies:

I am quoting an example (The young man with 4 distinctions n many other attributes ) that I know. He is from middle income without tuition n with all the non-academics activities that all done in school. No external helps at all.

I know. I am just being notti here. :evil:
[quote]They are still possible to achieve yesteryear n now but I am not sure if it is still possible tomorrow.

Honestly, I don't see what has changed so much with our educational system that it is no longer possible.[/quote]My experience is that some kids without having prior exposure externally may not be selected in all those popular CC A in pri school. Those who has prior exposure will have advantages over them. This case is getting more common nowsaday la. Some parents may want to share more......

[sinoboy]

wonderm:

sinoboy:

You won't know the result because maybe it might be difficult to handle the truth and reality. So better not disclose?

Yes good to read it up and be aware of the developments. 不要等到病入膏肓没药医呀。

You know something the \"majority\" doesn't know? Or is this purely your speculation?

I know as much as the majority knows by piecing together publicly available information, and looking at the response from authorities and hearing the experiences of people around me. Most parents are too busy coaching their kids, keep their jobs or buying their next property, so they did't bother whats happening around them. Things are changing very fast and a lot of us are sometimes caught off-guard if we didn't pay attention. 不见棺材不掉泪嘛。

[CayennePepper]

pirate:

CayennePepper:

Nobody cares about non-GEP/GEP background by the time one is in college.
I don't have statistics to back me up, but I spent years, on and off, at one of these faculties and I interacted with a great number of undergraduates. Quite simply, the issue never arose. If you were accepted into these faculties, intellect is most assuredly not the determining factor!

...says the faculties (in Singapore) who never admit any student with 3B.

The reason why non-GEP/GEP background never crop up is that it is obsolete information by the time they are in the faculties.

Huh? Definitely not true that they only admit straight As. I was in a position to know.
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Side track a bit. Just for info for all, for uni entry, there exists a little scheme somewhat similar to the DSA. Very selective though

[CayennePepper]

sinoboy:

Perhaps it's because the GEP ones are on scholarship and mostly in overseas uni?

:pokeeye: :heresmyfish: :pokeeye:

[Belinng]

wonderm:

BluryMom:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]Can someone enlighten me, is it true that no repeat is allowed by MOE no matter how badly a child performs in primary school?


Since we know that foreign students are allowed to start 1 or even 2 levels lower when joining our primary schools mid-way. How about returning Singaporean, are they given this option too? If so, anyone knows how many of returning Singaporean take up the chance to gain the \"over-age\" advantage?

Based on the extracted info on moe site with regards to plse 2012 result, the kids are allow to repeat psle -
\" Performance of 2012 Primary 6 Cohort
A total of 48,333 Primary 6 students sat for the PSLE this year. Among these students, 47,163 students (or 97.6%) are assessed as suitable to proceed to secondary school. In terms of course eligibility, 63.1% are eligible for the Express course, 23.1% for the Normal (Academic) and 11.4% for the Normal (Technical) course.

There are 1,170 students (or 2.4%) who are assessed to be not yet ready for secondary school. Of these, students who have attempted PSLE once and are not overage may, based on the recommendations of their primary school principals, apply to Assumption Pathway School (APS) or NorthLight School (NLS), or spend another year in Primary 6 to consolidate their learning. The remaining students who are unsuccessful after repeated attempts at the PSLE or are overage will be offered a place in APS or NLS.\"

Reference:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2012/11/release-of-the-2012-psle-results.php

Thanks for the information.[/quote]But its not easy to repeat as T-score of 67 will get into Normal Tech. which is about 25 marks raw score for each subject.

[Sun_2010]

sinoboy:

wonderm:

[quote=\"sinoboy\"]
You won't know the result because maybe it might be difficult to handle the truth and reality. So better not disclose?

Yes good to read it up and be aware of the developments. 不要等到病入膏肓没药医呀。

You know something the \"majority\" doesn't know? Or is this purely your speculation?

I know as much as the majority knows by piecing together publicly available information you mean the threading heading? , and looking at the response from authorities which response? and hearing the experiences of people around me What experience? Can Share ? [/quote]there goes again...
vague reference, no facts or numbers ,own interpretation but very definite conclusions which you will not put down in words but hint hint , nudge nudge ...Maybe I am the only one not getting it , maybe I am dumber I realise.
So can you or some kind soul enlighten me?

[cherryc]

Interesting insights:


http://petunialee.blogspot.sg/2012/11/how-does-nyps-do-it.html?m=1

[sinoboy]

Sun_2010:

sinoboy:

I know as much as the majority knows by piecing together publicly available information you mean the threading heading? , and looking at the response from authorities which response? and hearing the experiences of people around me What experience? Can Share ?

there goes again...
vague reference, no facts or numbers ,own interpretation but very definite conclusions which you will not put down in words but hint hint , nudge nudge ...Maybe I am the only one not getting it , maybe I am dumber I realise.
So can you or some kind soul enlighten me?

Ok you win.

Hope we don't see newcomers flooding our school system at the expense of the locals. Hope changes can be made to entering schools with a lower than COP score using DSA for GEP, IP program in some JCs that discriminate against good students by asking for 3 points with 6 subjects. :scratchhead:

If not the children slowly crawl their way up to uni in ITE or Poly .. provided they don't pick up bad habits and fall by the wayside in the process. The kids can take the easier IB route, but not sure our kids are suitable for that system.

Sweeping changes are required, but with lots of defensive stance from either ignorance or vested interests, but I'm not sure if any non-superficial changes will ever be made. I'm out of here for good.